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Old 05-08-2021, 10:58 PM
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You thought I wouldnt read it? Lookie here.
According to the allegations in plaintiffs’ complaint, plaintiff Eric Ostegren is a
credentialed election challenger under MCL 168.730. Paragraph 2 of the complaint alleges that
plaintiff Ostegren was “excluded from the counting board during the absent voter ballot review
process.” The complaint does not specify when, where, or by whom plaintiff was excluded. Nor
does the complaint provide any details about why the alleged exclusion occurred.


So I can submit a case that says "G13 robbed my house" and not specify anything else? Not the date, not the time, not the address, how I knew it was you, etc. Yeah fortunately you dont get to make frivolous claims and expect the supreme court to look at it. They also said they didnt get "meaningful access" which is not a legal term, it does not mean anything at all. They dont specify what that means. You also dont get to break the rules by not wearing a mask and expect to hang around, then cry about getting thrown out for breaking rules you agreed to.

Next.
You're not proving evidence was allowed in a courtroom
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:11 PM
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You're not proving evidence was allowed in a courtroom
You cant smear shit all over your job application and expect them to take it and call you. Why would you expect the same from a court? Why didnt they fill out their paperwork properly??

Sounds like you need to ask rudy and kraken wrangler why they couldnt do the most simple part of being a lawyer. Getting the date, time, and what happened, would have been extremely helpful, dont you think?

Instead we got "we didnt get meanful access" and "they maked me go home cause i broke the rules i agreed to". When?? Where?? What happened?? Who did? What was their name?

Thats day 1 shit man. I remain unconvinced. I'm not even going to insult you because you tried and i respect that. I'm not even being sarcastic. FINALLY someone fucking tried. Everyone else ran like a bitch but you didnt. I take it back and I owe someone a 20.
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:01 PM
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Not to mention this.
MOOTNESS
Moreover, even if the requested relief could issue against the Secretary of State, the Court
notes that the complaint and emergency motion were not filed until approximately 4:00 p.m. on
November 4, 2020—despite being announced to various media outlets much earlier in the day. By
the time this action was filed, the votes had largely been counted, and the counting is now
complete. Accordingly, and even assuming the requested relief were available against the
Secretary of State—and overlooking the problems with the factual and evidentiary record noted
above—the matter is now moot, as it is impossible to issue the requested relief. See Gleason v
Kincaid, 323 Mich App 308, 314; 917 NW2d 685 (2018)
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that plaintiff’s November 4, 2020 emergency motion for
declaratory judgment is DENIED.
IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that proposed intervenor’s motion to intervene is
DENIED as MOOT.


But here we go. So I took criminal justice in high school and they didnt explain ANYTHING about court documents or how to read them but some how my antifa super soldier brain can make sense of this.

Basically, they said "since you waited til 4pm, after a shitload of votes were counted, you started to lose, you tried to file this as emergency relief without filling out your paperwork properly. Thanks for wasting americas time."
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:17 PM
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Not to mention this.
MOOTNESS
Moreover, even if the requested relief could issue against the Secretary of State, the Court
notes that the complaint and emergency motion were not filed until approximately 4:00 p.m. on
November 4, 2020—despite being announced to various media outlets much earlier in the day. By
the time this action was filed, the votes had largely been counted, and the counting is now
complete. Accordingly, and even assuming the requested relief were available against the
Secretary of State—and overlooking the problems with the factual and evidentiary record noted
above—the matter is now moot, as it is impossible to issue the requested relief. See Gleason v
Kincaid, 323 Mich App 308, 314; 917 NW2d 685 (2018)
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that plaintiff’s November 4, 2020 emergency motion for
declaratory judgment is DENIED.
IT IS HEREBY FURTHER ORDERED that proposed intervenor’s motion to intervene is
DENIED as MOOT.


But here we go. So I took criminal justice in high school and they didnt explain ANYTHING about court documents or how to read them but some how my antifa super soldier brain can make sense of this.

Basically, they said "since you waited til 4pm, after a shitload of votes were counted, you started to lose, you tried to file this as emergency relief without filling out your paperwork properly. Thanks for wasting americas time."
I thought you had proof evidence was allowed inside a courtroom

Where is it?
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:26 PM
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I thought you had proof evidence was allowed inside a courtroom

Where is it?
I never said that. I was asking you for it. I was asking you to show us the injustice in the case. Like, why it was unfair to trumps lawyers. Read it again.

Also, the burden of proof is on the accuser. You're the one making claims of unfairness, cheating, and fraud. You dont get to shift that burden and try to play the prove a negative game. I cant prove there was no cheating, its a negative. How can I prove there is nothing of something? Nobody can. That means its on you.

You made the claim that evidence was "not allowed in court". You substantiated it with that court case. The court case provided why it didnt allow the case to proceed. That was your claim, not mine. My claim was "I dont believe you".
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:27 PM
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I never said that. I was asking you for it. I was asking you to show us the injustice in the case. Like, why it was unfair to trumps lawyers. Read it again.

Also, the burden of proof is on the accuser. You're the one making claims of unfairness, cheating, and fraud. You dont get to shift that burden and try to play the prove a negative game. I cant prove there was no cheating, its a negative. How can I prove there is nothing of something? Nobody can. That means its on you.

You made the claim that evidence was "not allowed in court". You substantiated it with that court case. The court case provided why it didnt allow the case to proceed. That was your claim, not mine. My claim was "I dont believe you".
You made a big spectacle pretending evidence was allowed in court

What happened?
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:34 PM
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You made a big spectacle pretending evidence was allowed in court

What happened?
It is when you fill out the paper work properly with dates, times, names, locations, and every other detail to make it verifiable. Like I said, you dont get to submit a claim to the court as vauge as "we didnt get meaningful access" and "I was made to leave". You see how thats just not enough to proceed? If that was the standard I could pay 200 bucks to start a case right now and tie up whatever or whoever i wanted with a claim of "they cheated me" or "sam owes me 10,000 dollars" and that was all i put down as to what was actually wrong.

If you even bothered to read any of that, thats it. You tried, ill give you that.
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:35 PM
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Nobody said evidence was allowed in court.
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Old 05-08-2021, 11:42 PM
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And whos fault is that, exactly? Who didnt fill out their court cases properly, filed them very late, then tried to pursue them after the votes were already counted?

I'll give you a hint. One of them can summon mythical sea monsters from the depths. One is a living mummy alcoholic.
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:03 AM
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And whos fault is that, exactly? Who didnt fill out their court cases properly, filed them very late, then tried to pursue them after the votes were already counted?

I'll give you a hint. One of them can summon mythical sea monsters from the depths. One is a living mummy alcoholic.
There were more than 80 cases in totality

Not every case was tossed because "the paperwork wasn't filled out in time"


The AZ audit results will be interesting for sure

Hopefully they can get into those machines
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