Enchanter OP impact poll

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These people are usually too lazy and/or lack the motor skills to play enchanter. This kind of "if I can't then no one else is allowed to" is the community's poor sports on display again. You see it everywhere and would hope it wouldn't infect our escapisms. Sadly, it does. Being a poor sport shouldn't be celebrated and it isn't brave.

If only that was true. In reality these kinds of people crying about Enchanter being nerfed are the ones who can't handle playing a difficult class. They need channeling rates to be 10x higher than classic so they can pretend to be good.

Don't worry though I'll have a few videos of me playing Enchanter. You can see my fine motor skill at work when I'm in melee with 5 mobs and channel charm right through it. You heard right. Not stun. Not root. Fuck all that.

Mobs were charmed thru the first AoW kill. The end.

Almost like everything I said is true and charm wasn't a big thing until Velious.

By your and OP's logic you want them to nerf classes that can solo because you're frustrated after choosing a class that can't. Enchanter, necro, bards, mages, shaman, druids, and wizards can all be powerful solo'ing classes but it doesn't make sense to nerf them just to make you feel better.

Necro gets no pet attack delay reduction, Bard has AE kite limit, Mage no has pet attack delay reduction, Shaman is about to get Torpor nerfed, etc. Blah blah blah. I already have an Enchanter.

It’s all overpowered until you really need to take a shit

Enchanter so OP the only downside is if you're AFK.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't worry though I'll have a few videos of me playing Enchanter. You can see my fine motor skill at work when I'm in melee with 5 mobs and channel charm right through it. You heard right. Not stun. Not root. Fuck all that.

Do it then. Let's see you charm through 5 mobs meleeing you. All you do is talk ridiculous garbage. It's so pathetic.

[azxten]

Unfortunately, someone was in Unrest basement so I'll have to try again later. I couldn't find 5 mobs together and the monk is green. Don't worry though I did successfully channel charm the two times I casted it while in melee. Just wanted to post this because it's hilarious that I successfully channel through a dark terror's knockback.

[Mon Mar 22 07:50:16 2021] You begin casting Beguile.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:16 2021] A skeletal monk hits YOU for 2 points of damage.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:16 2021] A skeletal monk tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:16 2021] A dark terror hits YOU for 54 points of damage.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:17 2021] A skeletal monk strikes YOU for 25 points of damage.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:19 2021] A dark terror hits YOU for 51 points of damage.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:19 2021] A massive force knocks you backwards. You have taken 1 point of damage.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:19 2021] A dark terror hits YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:19 2021] Dearbaby begins to cast a spell.
[Mon Mar 22 07:50:19 2021] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.

Take 5 melee hits and a knockback spell? Yeah, we can channel through that. I'll build ever more ridiculous evidence of this including consecutive ridiculous channeling events all on video to prove I'm not cherry picking. Try it yourself some time.

I will admit it took me 10 years of P99 to finally come to the conclusion that not casting long ass spells in melee is inefficient and newb shit from live EQ that doesn't apply here. I bet a lot of people don't even try so they havn't realized yet just how easy it is.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These people are usually too lazy and/or lack the motor skills to play enchanter. This kind of "if I can't then no one else is allowed to" is the community's poor sports on display again. You see it everywhere and would hope it wouldn't infect our escapisms. Sadly, it does. Being a poor sport shouldn't be celebrated and it isn't brave.

A computer program can play an Enchanter.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately, someone was in Unrest basement so I'll have to try again later. I couldn't find 5 mobs together and the monk is green. Don't worry though I did successfully channel charm the two times I casted it while in melee. Just wanted to post this because it's hilarious that I successfully channel through a dark terror's knockback.



Take 5 melee hits and a knockback spell? Yeah, we can channel through that. I'll build ever more ridiculous evidence of this including consecutive ridiculous channeling events all on video to prove I'm not cherry picking. Try it yourself some time.

I will admit it took me 10 years of P99 to finally come to the conclusion that not casting long ass spells in melee is inefficient and newb shit from live EQ that doesn't apply here. I bet a lot of people don't even try so they havn't realized yet just how easy it is.

You're supposed to stun/mez then charm. Isn't there like a .5 spell that stuns?

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately, someone was in Unrest basement so I'll have to try again later. I couldn't find 5 mobs together and the monk is green. Don't worry though I did successfully channel charm the two times I casted it while in melee. Just wanted to post this because it's hilarious that I successfully channel through a dark terror's knockback.



Take 5 melee hits and a knockback spell? Yeah, we can channel through that. I'll build ever more ridiculous evidence of this including consecutive ridiculous channeling events all on video to prove I'm not cherry picking. Try it yourself some time.

I will admit it took me 10 years of P99 to finally come to the conclusion that not casting long ass spells in melee is inefficient and newb shit from live EQ that doesn't apply here. I bet a lot of people don't even try so they havn't realized yet just how easy it is.

Stop being pathetic and moving the goalpost and show us the video of you charming through 5 mobs meleeing you like you claimed you would. You writing some text means nothing. And don't just choose green mobs that are missing you. Get some blue cons at least. You're obviously going to try to cherrypick footage anyways.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A computer program can play an Enchanter.

At least the program would have to be constantly active unlike with most other classes that can and do literally AFK during a group and people wouldn't even notice. Like it's so hard to turn on auto attack and stand there.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop being pathetic and moving the goalpost and show us the video of you charming through 5 mobs meleeing you like you claimed you would. You writing some text means nothing.

lol.. I didn't move shit, I just wanted to show that in 1 minute I can already capture a stupid channeling moment without even trying. I'll include the video with the larger analysis I mentioned.

You're supposed to stun/mez then charm. Isn't there like a .5 spell that stuns?

Why waste the mana? I've been eating melee on Enchanter and regen with Troll illusion during my unbreaking charm fight. Saves on rune costs and is the pro way to play. My HP bar is just an alternate mana bar and believe me even if I'm down at 20% health I'm still charming because we all know there is zero risk as an Enchanter if anything happens. I'll just channel whatever I need through whatever happens including rune. Charm broke? Better rune myself while in combat at 10% health and then charm while in combat.

lol... people say I'm making up ridiculous shit aren't gonna believe it when I post these videos. I didn't believe myself that Enchanter was so stupidly broken and OP due to channeling until I played one myself.

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol.. I didn't move shit, I just wanted to show that in 1 minute I can already capture a stupid channeling moment without even trying. I'll include the video with the larger analysis I mentioned.

Except you literally did. It's right there in the text to see. Stop making excuses and let's see you charm through 5 mobs hitting you and blue cons, not just green cons that are missing you. In your defense, you probably actually have no idea what constitutes strong, empirical evidence. This is likely more the fault of your education system than it is of yours.

[Disease]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately, someone was in Unrest basement so I'll have to try again later. I couldn't find 5 mobs together and the monk is green. Don't worry though I did successfully channel charm the two times I casted it while in melee. Just wanted to post this because it's hilarious that I successfully channel through a dark terror's knockback.



Take 5 melee hits and a knockback spell? Yeah, we can channel through that. I'll build ever more ridiculous evidence of this including consecutive ridiculous channeling events all on video to prove I'm not cherry picking. Try it yourself some time.

I will admit it took me 10 years of P99 to finally come to the conclusion that not casting long ass spells in melee is inefficient and newb shit from live EQ that doesn't apply here. I bet a lot of people don't even try so they havn't realized yet just how easy it is.

Wow! One log file, casting one spell. You're really putting in some work with getting this fix put in!