The player-moderated Ancient Cyclops list is a disaster.

[beh]

You don't understand that the more organized/raid guilds are sharing accounts and batphoning/discord mentioning their pals when each other's names are near the top? You think this doesn't artificially inflate the list and slow it to a molasses pace for those of us who don't feel like being woken up at 3am for a cyclops, or don't want to share passwords with strangers?

[adruidarkly]

Originally Posted by beh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't understand that the more organized/raid guilds are sharing accounts and batphoning/discord mentioning their pals when each other's names are near the top? You think this doesn't artificially inflate the list and slow it to a molasses pace for those of us who don't feel like being woken up at 3am for a cyclops, or don't want to share passwords with strangers?

Yes, and they will also do this on player run lists such as FBE. They do this on /lists. Do a /who on whose on those lists, it wont be surprising. You don't get away from it, so why not make it more manageable for all by having an always accessible publicly audit-able list?

[beh]

Originally Posted by beh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't understand that the more organized/raid guilds are sharing accounts and batphoning/discord mentioning their pals when each other's names are near the top? You think this doesn't artificially inflate the list and slow it to a molasses pace for those of us who don't feel like being woken up at 3am for a cyclops, or don't want to share passwords with strangers?

If you don't have some bogus offline list, it will never grow to 100+ people, and you have to actually dedicate the time and effort required to get jboots, TO GET JBOOTS! In turn, this time-sink, working as intended, will discourage MOST farmers from wasting their time camping jboots for cash, because just like half a dozen snarky assholes before me stated: YOU CAN MAKE THE PLAT QUICKER SOMEWHERE ELSE.

What a concept. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but I promise kids, it's not opposite day; this just requires some critical thinking.

[jerryR]

How are what the MQ farmers doing anything differently than you'd be doing following the same list ? If it's automatic and effortless seems like thats pretty attainable for whatever other class of player you are representing??

[beh]

BTW: It's been over 50 hours since I was re-added to the list after the incident of the original post and I've moved up less than 40 spots. There are still over 60 "people" ahead of me. It couldn't *possibly* be this long and slow because some of the same people are adding multiple alts to this list... right? ........

....Right?

[jerryR]

Originally Posted by beh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BTW: It's been over 50 hours since I was re-added to the list after the incident of the original post and I've moved up less than 40 spots.

There is still a non-trivial time component involved once you do make it to the camp holder - as you know from falling asleep attempting it. How is it going to be any easier for some other guy regardless of his motivations or account, guild etc ? It seems like its super easy to waste that amount of time for everyone but you ??

[beh]

Lol. Now I "fell asleep while I had the camp". Not even close to what actually happened. You'll come up with anything to defend trash because it's your trash. Probably a republican. BTW, there's definitely no secret cabal of jboots monopolizers. There isn't enough intelligence among the defenders of this list for something of that scale. Simply a bunch of people too bad at this game to figure out how to get their jboots without a list that lets you not actually play EQ but still get loot.

[Crab]

Originally Posted by beh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol. Now I "fell asleep while I had the camp". Not even close to what actually happened. You'll come up with anything to defend trash because it's your trash. Probably a republican. BTW, there's definitely no secret cabal of jboots monopolizers. There isn't enough intelligence among the defenders of this list for something of that scale. Simply a bunch of people too bad at this game to figure out how to get their jboots without a list that lets you not actually play EQ but still get loot.

I cannot remember the last time I fell for a troll, good work.

[beh]

Mods can go ahead and lock or RNF this one I guess, nothing useful is going to come out of this beyond ad-homs at this point. If these carebears need big brother's list to stay happy because they don't have the time to dedicate to actually playing the game then that says more about the state of the server than anything else, I guess. Kunark can't come quickly enough.

[Impeaches]

Originally Posted by beh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you would like names of the people mentioned in my post that moved #40something to #1 this morning, I'd be happy to share, since your awesome auditing didn't catch that today.

Let's go ahead and solve this little part of the equation, okay Beh or Coronita (Fires of Heaven). I (My in-game name matches my name here now) was the person who held the list over to find the next person online. I started my AC camp off with a tell from you whining about missing your turn. Literally before I even summoned a pet you were sending me tells whining. As soon as I had a second I started /w all down the list. Then the third spawns AC popped and i had made it to like #20 on the list. One PH popped I killed it. I play on a laptop and either have to window back and forth or use my phone to get names, so it can be a little slow. I had little time to send tells to folks on the list to find who was online for the #2 spot with only 2 PH spawning before I got an AC. I continued down the list and found one person in BB headed to the AC camp and informed that person I was continuing down the list in case someone bound there was online. PH #1 post AC popped and I killed it. You stated you were taking the camp on next PH. I told you I had the camp and was not relinquishing it to you and wiping a list because I couldn't type fast enough to find who was online. I found another person online around #40something on the list, a guildmate, who declined because they were not bound there. PH #2 post AC spawned and I killed it. You stated again you were taking the camp I told you it was my camp and you were not taking it, I was going to honor the list as it stood and continue to see if anyone was online and bound at the camp. At that point the person in the #8 or #10 spot appeared in camp. I forgot this person's name, it started with a "B" and don't want to drag anyone into your shit show here. I turned the camp and list over to that person, who was not number #40, not someone I know, and not part of some grand conspiracy to keep you from achieving greatness in a 20 year old game.

The other person you keep alluding as my co-conspirator is someone I solely know from the AC camp. The person who I turned the spawn over to is someone I have never interacted with in game before. There's nothing rotten in Denmark or this situation so go ahead and put the tin foil hat away for another day.

As for issues with the current system, the inability to ban you and people like you and Urbrutha from the list is the only issue with the list. I could see saying you slots #1 and #2 had to be in camp, or even 1-3.

Now, back to a 20 year old game thankfully kept alive by some folks who don't get enough credit.

ImPeaches... go fuck yourself Coronita...