Request for a different policy on (game-changing) specific item camps

[Nagash]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your comparing holding an item camp... to gear up guildies and friends... to nazi germany???

Nope, I'm just showing how flawed the logic he used to justify guild camping is.

Nagash/Petitpas

[Arclyte]

Godwin's Law: When you just can't come up with a legitimate rebuttal™

[Nagash]

Quirk's Exception

[soup]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, I'm just showing how flawed the logic he used to justify guild camping is.

Nagash/Petitpas

Yeah but you did no such thing. FFS, you ended your statement with "you see what I'm getting at"

Well, no, we don't, because it makes no sense. He said if you knew the time and dedication it takes to hold the camp then you wouldn't say anyone who just walks up should get in line. Then you said "If you knew x, y, and z about Nazi Germany then... you see what I'm getting at."

You can't just try and start making a point and then take it nowhere and then say "See what I mean? I proved my point perfectly." You never finished demonstrating the parallel in the example.

[YendorLootmonkey]

We all have the same choices to make... whether it be to join guild X to raid zone Y to get loot Z, to organize a group of friends to camp out in a strategic location for when the server goes down to beat guild A to holding camp B in zone C, to deciding how much personal time we want to put into this game tied to our computer chair, batphone, pager, smoke signals, wtfever.

If you choose differently then another, you have to accept those consequences. There are opportunity costs for every decision you make. You can sit there unguilded and cry about never having a chance at planar loot, or you can go app to a guild, be a team player, raid, and get the things you want. You can sit there and cry about not having a chance at a camp, or you can gather up your own guild, friends, whoever, and wait for them to AFK out and lose the camp.

Same opportunity. Same choices. Do with the game what you want. But don't cry about other people's choices cockblocking you, when in reality it is the choices YOU made that are cockblocking yourself.

[Kika Maslyaka]

what Nagash is saying is that, just because you put time, effort, and dedication into something - doesn't mean you are in fact entitled to it, or its right or fair.

Hence the Nazi example.

[Shiftin]

Well said yendor. Lol at some of the leaps in logic in this thread.

[Humerox]

no one is monopolizing camps to deny content.

the camps WILL be passed off.

try coordinating with whatever guild is holding whatever camp, to get an idea of the timeline. i know of several camps that were given up due to raids, unavailability of guild members to hold a particular camp, etc.

try communicating a bit. if you don't get a definitive answer one day, try the next.

[Klyre]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what Nagash is saying is that, just because you put time, effort, and dedication into something - doesn't mean you are in fact entitled to it, or its right or fair.

Hence the Nazi example.

I am not one to usually be questioning, or trollish. But I must say that everyone in this thread is now dumber for what you just said. I mean if this is the totality of your argument....Huh? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"just because you put time, effort, and dedication into something - doesn't mean you are in fact entitled to it, or its right or fair."

Really? This is the basis of all life to work for what you get. The only thing in there that you might argue is "fair". Ummmm but that's subjective...

I think I really am dumber from reading this...

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what Nagash is saying is that, just because you put time, effort, and dedication into something - doesn't mean you are in fact entitled to it, or its right or fair.

And just because you're standing next in line for something - doesn't mean you are in fact entitled to it, or its right or fair. Otherwise I could get laid a lot more by forming lines...