ok, so did Donald Trump win or lose in this election?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you an expert? Talking about how trump is a fascist, and using mousulini and franco as a comparison, literally totally oblivious to the history that both of them rose to power out of 20+ year long depressions after ww1

Pathetic media brainwashing. The only evidence that trump is a fascist that you have is what you heard on john oliver.

Pathetic.

Are you an expert? Do enlighten the masses, please, if so.

[mickmoranis]

Because he saw John Oliver and Trevor Noah or some other corperate media shill tell him so, that's how.

[Ahldagor]

I don't have cable. Why waste money?

Still waiting on your expert analysis of the rise of Franco and Musolini, or are you too weak to present it?

[misterbonkers]

strange admission of guilt

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by misterbonkers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

strange admission of guilt

Democrats in Broward County were court ordered to submit ballots by a certain time (because a judge found them guilty of election tampering in 2016).

They failed to do so.

They were also filmed stuffing ballots into various vehicles in a dimly lit alley.

And yet you continue to defend these people.

[Raev]

Retaining control of the Senate is a huge win for Trump. He can continue appointing judges. The Supreme Court could easily be 7-2 by 2020; Ginsburg is on life support and Breyer is 81. And the lower Federal courts count too. He can continue to appoint Cabinet members without the Democrats obstructing them for months, especially the AG. And the Senate will block any impeachment proceedings.

Losing the House is definitely not a win, but it's not a huge loss either. Remember, the Democrats have literally no vision other than attacking Trump. If they spend all of their time trying to impeach him and look into his tax returns and such without success, all they will do is alienate the more moderate parts of their party. And if their only message is attacking Trump, and they fail to do that, then what purpose do they serve? On the contrary, now that the midterms are over and Sessions is out I think it's likely Trump goes harder in the paint with the FISA declassification and the Democrats are the ones that are hit with scandals - not to mention all of this voter fraud that is coming out.

I think at this point the Democrats' primary plan is to have Powell crash the stock market by raising interest rates to stop Trump 2020. But will it work? Somewhere in the 2000s the Democrats became the party of the rich. Most Trump voters probably don't have huge amounts of stock, and Trump may well succeed push the blame onto the Democratic House and the Fed. And crashing the American stock market will crash the Chinese stock market as well, and that will only be good for American manufacturing.

Verdict: I wouldn't call it a victory for Trump, but it's certainly not a loss either. The k-ification of American continues.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Retaining control of the Senate is a huge win for Trump. He can continue appointing judges. The Supreme Court could easily be 7-2 by 2020; Ginsburg is on life support and Breyer is 81. And the lower Federal courts count too. He can continue to appoint Cabinet members without the Democrats obstructing them for months, especially the AG. And the Senate will block any impeachment proceedings.

Losing the House is definitely not a win, but it's not a huge loss either. Remember, the Democrats have literally no vision other than attacking Trump. If they spend all of their time trying to impeach him and look into his tax returns and such without success, all they will do is alienate the more moderate parts of their party. And if their only message is attacking Trump, and they fail to do that, then what purpose do they serve? On the contrary, now that the midterms are over and Sessions is out I think it's likely Trump goes harder in the paint with the FISA declassification and the Democrats are the ones that are hit with scandals - not to mention all of this voter fraud that is coming out.

I think at this point the Democrats' primary plan is to have Powell crash the stock market by raising interest rates to stop Trump 2020. But will it work? Somewhere in the 2000s the Democrats became the party of the rich. Most Trump voters probably don't have huge amounts of stock, and Trump may well succeed push the blame onto the Democratic House and the Fed. And crashing the American stock market will crash the Chinese stock market as well, and that will only be good for American manufacturing.

Verdict: I wouldn't call it a victory for Trump, but it's certainly not a loss either. The k-ification of American continues.

So you’re hoping for a stock market crash? The trump loyalty is ridiculous bud, America first means the country before Trump

hope this helps

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you’re hoping for a stock market crash? The trump loyalty is ridiculous bud, America first means the country before Trump

hope this helps

I am not hoping for a stock market crash. I own stocks!

But think of it this way: if everyone agrees that the widening inequality between the 1% and Main Street is one of America's biggest problems, and a stock market crash would significantly reduce the wealth of the 1% while barely touching Main Street Americans, might it not actually be a good thing?

All of the communists here like to pile on Trump for the Republican tax cuts which hit the wealthy and corporations, but the reality is that the Fed's asset bubbles during the Bush II/Obama presidencies are the real driver of inequality in America.

[misterbonkers]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Democrats in Broward County were court ordered to submit ballots by a certain time (because a judge found them guilty of election tampering in 2016).

They failed to do so.

They were also filmed stuffing ballots into various vehicles in a dimly lit alley.

And yet you continue to defend these people.

i'm feeling generous today, so i'll bite the bait for once and say [citation needed]

eagerly awaiting a link that isn't from a biased source, because all i can find is one where she destroyed preserved ballots early. and if you argue they were tampered (your words) with, where's the evidence? she wasn't found guilty of tampering, so please, enlighten me

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by misterbonkers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm feeling generous today, so i'll bite the bait for once and say [citation needed]

eagerly awaiting a link that isn't from a biased source, because all i can find is one where she destroyed preserved ballots early. and if you argue they were tampered (your words) with, where's the evidence? she wasn't found guilty of tampering, so please, enlighten me

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...514-story.html

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...otts-campaign/

And the video:

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/mobil...nty/77-8309018