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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the current Scout setup?
Keep it as-is, because a random amongst 40 people in perpetuity is fun. 166 77.93%
This compromise sounds like an acceptable melding of opinions. 13 6.10%
The current setup sucks, but I want something different outlined below. 34 15.96%
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Old 09-25-2018, 10:57 AM
aaezil aaezil is offline
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You do realize everyone at lodi + most variance spawns use third party programs/hardware for FTE, right? If staff were gonna ban for that you think they would have by now
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I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.
It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

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No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:23 AM
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I would think a level 52 minimum would alleviate concerns of Nagy / Vox toons... I don't have one nor likely will. My main issue with lower levels being able to show up and roll is the impact to the wrist economy. Devalues all other options. Just my opinion though! Don't much care.
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:58 PM
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I think the winner of the roll should be able to do whatever they want with their loot. Sell it, trade it, give it to a friend or guildie, collect multiple talismans cause you are a boss like that, whatever..
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Old 09-25-2018, 05:04 PM
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main only level 60 With at least 1 BIS already.

Only these people should be winning these rolls.

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not a level 45 alt who won't play in a month.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:10 PM
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FTE was classic.

It was actually just about the only rule involving mob ownership. It wasn't called FTE at the time but generally whoever tagged a mob first owns that mob including where that mob goes such as training / griefing.
What's not classic is having only one engagement per guild at any given time, camping and the zone line races.

Camping was a player created concept that was never upheld by GMs on live and the other rules are obviously put in place to make a single server option more bearable since a single zerg guild would otherwise dominate.

To my knowledge, none of these were player made agreements. They're Dev enforced rules that are not classic.

There are many coded examples that are not classic either. One in particular that has been address before yet I still find somewhat potent is the Endurance stat not working.

Either way non-classic changes both rules and code are made for a better overall experience and scout is something more than half the server likely takes part in. I don't agree with OP's solutions. I feel a simple level cap should be coded so scout Ignores players not of that level. Planar zones work this way and most Guild raids work this way.
Creating a level cap will lower the number of people who roll on Scout naturally by weeding out players who are not actually invested in the characters they're rolling with.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:18 PM
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Either way non-classic changes both rules and code are made for a better overall experience and scout is something more than half the server likely takes part in.
Half the server takes part in Scout??
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:05 PM
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Half the server takes part in Scout??
hehe, that would imply truly epic levels of boxing
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Old 09-26-2018, 05:01 PM
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Half the server takes part in Scout??
I don't mean at the same time and that should be obvious.
I mean Scout is something likely half the server population has taken part in at some point or still does takes part.

It's not a simple thing that affects 40 people out of 1200. It affects many people who play this game and should not be trivialized. Just because someone has their VP key doesn't mean rules on camping Pained Soul should not be strictly enforced or revised based on future conflicts.

That's kinda what's wrong with Scout roll. It's a selfish roll. In by that I mean people engaged in it only care how it affects them and not other players. Once they're done they don't care anymore either. That's why players have started bringing lvl 30's and 40's to the roll. They don't care how it affects others. They just want their pixels.

Sometimes rules need to be revised, ie Fear Golems.
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Old 09-27-2018, 01:36 AM
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60 people at scout tonight

Very normal should stay the same amirite
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I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.
It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

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No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value.
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Old 09-27-2018, 01:39 AM
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60 people at scout tonight

Very normal should stay the same amirite
i won it, so it's perfectly fine as is
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