Paradigm Shit

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by coverjudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If legday could count, he'd be furious at how many green scales PS has banked

Grats on you Sev lockdown. Lol

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by arlypoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holding loot for a week to make a decision is greasy and ridiculous. If youre participating in a "raid" or whatever, give it to someone who's actually there.

Does paradigm not award loot to the people there? Because every other guild pretty much does. The only exceptions are if they were ninja looted or rotted accidentally I would assume.

[Pyrrhica]

Originally Posted by Kesselring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does paradigm not award loot to the people there? Because every other guild pretty much does. The only exceptions are if they were ninja looted or rotted accidentally I would assume.

Items are awarded to those present. If no one needs an item it is awarded later, typically. The one exception is something like Green/White Scales.

[mattydef]

Originally Posted by Pyrrhica [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Items are awarded to those present. If no one needs an item it is awarded later, typically. The one exception is something like Green/White Scales.

Makes sense. Just out of curiosity, if a member were to turn around and sell the green scale for profit, how would you guys handle that? Would you guys want to be guilded with a person like that?

[Goodest]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Makes sense. Just out of curiosity, if a member were to turn around and sell the green scale for profit, how would you guys handle that? Would you guys want to be guilded with a person like that?

WTT green scales for earth staff quick before the officers find out.

[24kanthony]

Originally Posted by mattydef [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Makes sense. Just out of curiosity, if a member were to turn around and sell the green scale for profit, how would you guys handle that? Would you guys want to be guilded with a person like that?

Awarded gear is not to be turned around and sold without at least going over it with the officers first. If you got a scale, you also got "grats on your epic" tells from the whole guild.
We have a whole rules section on our website for anyone interested.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by 24kanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Awarded gear is not to be turned around and sold without at least going over it with the officers first. If you got a scale, you also got "grats on your epic" tells from the whole guild.
We have a whole rules section on our website for anyone interested.

do you hafta return your droppables when you leave the guild too?

[Pyrrhica]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bet PS would have picked up far more AW members if they were using dkp.

Most likely, but who says we even wanted to. No offense to A/A but we play the game our way and it has brought us some relative success. We're in no rush to conquer Velious with zerg and the people in this guild give far too few fucks to dominate anything. We get what we get and have fun doing it.

Originally Posted by shortshot444 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They never claimed it was fair, take it or leave it that is up to you. Paradigm is a guild in a game you can choose to join(given they accept) or leave when you please. PS leadership enjoys loot council and that is their call. I personally enjoyed my time in paradigm and there are many many great people in the leadership and the guild as a whole. But loot council is a system in which you have little to no control and the guild "leader" may and will be given whatever he pleases and continue to brag/mock as you can see in threads such as this. At the end of the day paradigm is a a great guild but loot council is inherently flawed because we are human at the end of the day. I wish paradigm the best of luck you guys will be fine without whomever has issue with things silly as this myself included. I do remember a time when paradigms leadership supposedly lead by example, loot included but as paradigm progressed as a guild and moved on those ideals faded FAST!

You'll always have outliers with any loot system where people rage out after not getting what they want and make silly anonymous RnFs. Members by and large seem pretty happy with things. If they weren't happy the guild would die or the system would change. We've had a small handful of people leave over loot the past two years and you were (surprisingly) one of them.

Sorry you didn't get picked, Funz.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Rampage had a loot council. Can't say it worked out for everyone, but it definately worked out for me. When one guild gets every loot in Velious a new warrior can end up with 20+ raid items looted in 3 months. #goodoldays

Rampage also kept track of DKP, which made most of the decisions easier (and quantifiable) and much more transparent, as members could see the same information the officers were using to make the decisions.

I think the main reason loot council worked well in Rampage was simply because of the sheer amount of loot rampage got.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rampage also kept track of DKP, which made most of the decisions easier (and quantifiable) and much more transparent, as members could see the same information the officers were using to make the decisions.

I think the main reason loot council worked well in Rampage was simply because of the sheer amount of loot rampage got.

Was the same system TMO used. I was in TMO during the 2.5 years uncontested. There was very very few issues with LC when you kill everything. Its when you start losing that it becomes an issue or when you barely kill anything at all.