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Old 12-22-2017, 05:34 PM
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Fine fuck it -- no poor immigrants. I'll get on bored. All Middleclass or up with some hope of bettering our economy -- we still need immigration though.
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:36 PM
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Fine fuck it -- no poor immigrants. I'll get on bored. All Middleclass or up with some hope of bettering our economy -- we still need immigration though.
We'll have plenty of it, saying no to illegal immigration is not saying no to immigration!

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but then again the OP of those statistics was simply to show how the narritive from the elected elite on the left, is actually dead ass wrong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Id take illegals over democrats tbh.
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:50 PM
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Fine fuck it -- no poor immigrants. I'll get on bored. All Middleclass or up with some hope of bettering our economy -- we still need immigration though.
Why do we need immigrants? Overcrowding and landfills / shit air quality are real issues
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:54 PM
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Why do we need immigrants? Overcrowding and landfills / shit air quality are real issues
it is ironic that liberals will cry about overpopulation and climate change then demand we have unfettered population growth.
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Why do we need immigrants? Overcrowding and landfills / shit air quality are real issues
If you don't worship at the alter of economic growth -- then you don't need them. But immigration helps build the overall size of the economy by concentrating talented individuals in first world countries like ours. We get the kind of people we need when we need them from a labor supply perspective.

The more hand wavy shit would be about cultural enrichment and the positive effects of globalization.

Basically, if the economy isn't growing -- rich people aren't happy. In America, they are very good at having the lower classes suffer more from economic downturns than other first world countries. But that is starting to wear thin because it has been so long since the lower orders have seen any growth in real wages. Meanwhile luxary for the rich has skyrocketed.
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If you don't worship at the alter of economic growth -- then you don't need them. But immigration helps build the overall size of the economy by concentrating talented individuals in first world countries like ours. We get the kind of people we need when we need them from a labor supply perspective.

The more hand wavy shit would be about cultural enrichment and the positive effects of globalization.

Basically, if the economy isn't growing -- rich people aren't happy. In America, they are very good at having the lower classes suffer more from economic downturns than other first world countries. But that is starting to wear thin because it has been so long since the lower orders have seen any growth in real wages. Meanwhile luxary for the rich has skyrocketed.
growth is the only thing keep mick's apocalyptic sex-fantasy from becoming real
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growth is the only thing keep mick's apocalyptic sex-fantasy from becoming real
Disagree

The north Europeans will figure out a post growth economy... them or the Japanese. Hopefully at that point we'll have a populace that is smart enough to understand we aren't #1 anymore

Also, we can increase productivity without increasing population
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If you don't worship at the alter of economic growth -- then you don't need them. But immigration helps build the overall size of the economy by concentrating talented individuals in first world countries like ours. We get the kind of people we need when we need them from a labor supply perspective.

The more hand wavy shit would be about cultural enrichment and the positive effects of globalization.

Basically, if the economy isn't growing -- rich people aren't happy. In America, they are very good at having the lower classes suffer more from economic downturns than other first world countries. But that is starting to wear thin because it has been so long since the lower orders have seen any growth in real wages. Meanwhile luxary for the rich has skyrocketed.
I'd be at the top of the pyramid regardless how it was structured. I don't care about that. I passed on values to my children that would allow them to flourish. Investments and constant GDP growth aren't great arguments anymore because automation really is coming. People are more likely to be liabilities as opposed to assets in the future. Our fertility rate is what, 1.8 kids per woman? That's a good pace to decline at. Let all the kids go into nursing to care for the elderly... $15,000 minimum income per annum so that peopl can afford healthcare and education (cut all forms of welfare)

It would work fine. But yeah, I agree that we have to tell Wall Street and Hollywood that they won't call the shots in the future. I'm thinking st some point even corrupt ass holes will realize population growth without decent job opportunities = bad for markets
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The problem is most the left isn't with me and will fight tooth and nail to keep poor South Americans coming in. We feel sorry for them blah blah...

All you have to do is set the IRS up to enforce it. Fine the shit out of business hiring illegals. Police don't want to arrest business owners...IRS have no issue giving out fines most the time.
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The problem is most the left isn't with me and will fight tooth and nail to keep poor South Americans coming in. We feel sorry for them blah blah...

All you have to do is set the IRS up to enforce it. Fine the shit out of business hiring illegals. Police don't want to arrest business owners...IRS have no issue giving out fines most the time.
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