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03-24-2016, 04:31 PM
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The French and their European brothers along with the US need to learn to be more tolerant and do more to ensure success of people who come to their countries. If you let somebody into your house and then refuse to feed him, don't complain when he stabs you and raids your refrigerator.
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03-24-2016, 04:34 PM
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..and ? They should be treated differently because they're muslims ? Do you think they're should be special laws for blacks/hispanics in the US since they make uo for the majority of the inmates..? Do you think they have some kind of genetic deficiency that make them more prone to crime..? Or is it their culture that makes them this way..? Do you think they should be separated from the "wasps"..? Edit: also can't help noticing that apparently the issue for you is that they're " algerians", not that they're muslims.. You're slipping [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Quote:
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03-24-2016, 05:42 PM
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My issue is that you're clearly not assimilating. Despite what you say, you aren't benefitting the people of France. You're occupying prisons, killing cartoonists, and shooting up concerts. You're blowing up airport terminals. In Afghanistan, you're selling 12 year old girls into marriage contracts. I'd go through every country where Muslims live, but the list would be exhaustive. As for blacks and Hispanics, I'm not a proponent of massive immigration in the US either. The western world isn't a humanitarian experiment designed to feed, house, and clothe everyone on earth to the detriment of its citizens. The United States, France, Germany, Belgium, etc, are sovereign nations whose first duty isn't to refugees from Syria that often time gangrape women and shoot up music festivals, it's to their citizens. I'm sorry if you find that racist or offensive, but I repeat: I owe you nothing. My country owes you nothing. My children owe yours nothing. Make your culture and society successful, or don't. Be my guest, either way. But don't continue to produce failed states (due to the misogyny, anti-science thought, homophobia, and authoritarianism of Islam) and simultaneously expect everyone else to bend over backwards to help you. I have no doubt that you benefitted from moving to France. The question is, have you enriched France? Even if the answer to that question is yes, you'd be the exception, not the rule. France, Europe, and the anglosphere have unquestionably not benefitted in any way from massive Islamic immigration.
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03-24-2016, 06:03 PM
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03-24-2016, 06:40 PM
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As for Jones, You must have missed his earlier rantings. He's waaay toned it down in recent years. He was losing a lot of his audience with his flame rants on exactly what you just mentioned. He in fact does believe it's a jewish conspiracy, and probably about everything else as being linked to the jews. And not just the jews, but everyone is fully eyes wide open supporting it who doesn't see it, or has some smidgen of inclination of that of Israels right to exist. I mean seriously, he took it to the point where it seemed like he lost his mind, literally, a crazed lunatic; and his mind telling him everyone knew of it, was in on it, but just wouldn't admit it openly, full spectrum paranoia. If "full retard" is defined in the dictionary, his name wouldn't be in there, just way too far beyond that.
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03-24-2016, 06:52 PM
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Collective responsibility isn't about giving people things, it's about enriching the entire nation by creating opportunity and investing in society itself. Believe it or not, there is often a culture tied to poverty, and people born into poverty are likely to stay that way. It's a cycle. They are less likely to ever develop the skills to flourish in modern society. I was born wealthy. My parents had their shit together. They read to me every night, I ate nutritious food, grew up tall, strong, smart, and healthy. They took me on summer vacations all around the country, taught me about ethics, the value of hard work and educational attainment, sent me to exceptional schools, helped me network, paid for my college, my car, and taught me fiscal discipline. Meanwhile, there were kids growing up in Los Angeles who had never even seen the ocean 30 miles away, whose parents didn't give a fuck, and taught them negative, self-destructive behaviors. What chance did those kids have to end up successful, functional, high-achieving adults? It's not impossible; people rise up out of poverty every day, but that is the exception, not the norm. And it's not because one day they made a choice "Yea I'm gonna be a lazy criminal fuck and do nothing with my life", it's because sociological determinism is real, the culture you are raised with has a profound impact on who you become, and opportunity is important. Culture, including the settings and values with which you are raised, effects you down to the way your prefrontal cortex is wired. That's the underlying reasoning for why we endeavor toward lower tax rates for poorer people, food stamps, need-based college scholarships, and stuff like that. It doesn't just help them overcome their circumstances, it benefits society as a whole by disrupting the cycle of poverty. When you help the poor, you're not just doing it to help them, you're helping everybody. Because poor people are fucking awful and we don't want them making more poor people. Study after study after study has shown that when there is infrastructure in place to give people opportunity, social mobility increases, poverty decreases, and society improves. Also I hope you aren't Christian because having contempt for the poor, the less fortunate, or the inferior are just about the least Christian cognitions you can have. How the religious right deals with the cognitive dissonance I have no clue. /positivism | |||
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You're mixing so many things. First the terrorists were mostly french. Not syrian refugees. They were born in france. But apparently you seem to think that nationality is dependant on skin color, cf: "As for blacks and Hispanics, I'm not a proponent of massive immigration in the US either." <= Blacks are immigrants ? what the fuck is wrong with you, black people have been living on american soil for centuries. If they're not american, i guess you are not either. ( => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90U2IqXEvSM ) 2nd: i thought persian was a language, not a nationality. I guess you mean that your family is from Iran originally. ANd that's actually why i don't get you: for some reason you seem to admit that you're a perfectly good citizen of the US, but other people in the exact same situation just can't because, well, they're terrorists because they are and that's it. 3rd: so what should we do about the refugees exactly ? sink their boats while they're on the mediterranean sea ? maybe build a wall like your dumbass of a candidate is seriously proposing ? (still laughing my ass off about people actually thinking it's a credible solution). 4th: the word "assimilation" is a bad word. But maybe we don't think of the same meaning. The only thing that matters when you live in a country is to accept the laws and rules of that country. I don't care that you're muslim. You can go to your mosque if you want, i'll even accept to help you find commodities to practice your faith. THe only thing i care is that you're not gonna stone anyone, or not gonna try to bomb an abortion clinic if you're christian. 5th: I laughed a bit when you said "the misogyny, anti-science thought, homophobia, and authoritarianism of Islam" <= pretty much every religion have that. There's actually US senators that think the earth is 5000 years old and that evolution is a lie from the devil to make young people fornicate.. if that's not anti-science, then what is ..? Not even gonna quote the "stone women" part of the bible because i guess you already heard of it. Oh and yeah, it's not just muslims and christians. Orthodox jews are fucking crazy. I also heard about buddhists killing muslims. Yep. Buddhists. i kid you not. My point is: religion is pretty much what you make of it. You can't reduce someone, or a whole people to a religion. In france these days there's a pedophilia scandal about some catholic priests.. do you think anyone is saying that catholics = pedophiles ? of course not. In the charlie hebdo shootings, one cop that was also muslim tried to stop them and died. In the hyper cacher hostages situation, a malian muslim that was not even legally on the french soil hid hostages from the terrorist, probably saving their lives. I choose to remember these guys. You choose to remember the terrorists. Quote:
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