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Old 12-04-2015, 06:46 PM
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Albion is great its in closed beta and they made a lot of great changes. I havent played in a few days but I ran into Romme the other day in Albion was pretty cool. A few other from p99 playing there as well. Think the game is being released in a month or so.
Albion is fucking awful. It's a great concept, but very poorly executed. It promised to be Ultima Online combined with Path of Exile but turned out to be MMO Farmville. I can't begin to explain how disappointed I am with it. People who pay for pre-access only incentivize publishers like these to make more stinking piles of crap.

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Old 12-04-2015, 08:12 PM
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Why limit your statement "home invasions"? Why not extend your parameters to include robberies, assaults, car thefts, etc. Does it fall apart once the more situations are introduced, thereby negating your talking point? Tell me, do your stats include occurrences where the intruder ran after hearing a shell being chambered, or is it only contained to those in which shots were fired? Please provide a link to data on which your statement is derived.[/COLOR][/B]
Because home invasions is the fantasy scenario gun owners use to justify keeping a firearm in their home. So yeah I guess let's make a more fair comparison:

21,175 suicides by firearm in 2013 (the #1 method of suicide and #1 cause of firearms deaths)
8,454 homicide by firearm in 2013
5,782 by handguns
approx 600 accidental deaths by firearm per year

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223 justifiable homicides (home intruders killed, statistic is inflated by ALL other justifiable homicides so in this scenario it would be much lower) 2013, out of 1,599,047 residential robberies committed the same year.

so, a gun is 94x more likely to be used by its owner to commit suicide than to kill someone in self defense. almost 38x more likely to be used in a homicide. over 2.6x as likely to kill an innocent bystander in a misfire accident.

there are no credible sources which have ever reported on defensive gun use, so there are no credible statistics for situations such as "flashes gun, person runs" sadly. the NRA won't even provide a statistic (LOL) but rather they cite anecdotal stories (because this is a fantasy scenario)

sources: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc..._2009-2013.xls
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:31 PM
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The clinically retarded are unable to focus long enough to google solid statistics that prove areas with stricter gun laws usually have higher crime rates.
For this to be true, you have to be talking globally rather than nationally. And there is a very simple explanation anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows: gun control laws are created reactively. Therefore, areas with higher overall crime are subject to stronger gun control laws as a response to their pre-existing crime issues. Take two seconds to research the outlier cases on an individual basis and you will realize simple truths like "detroit has stricter gun control laws than suburbtown, fucknowhere because more shootings are committed in detroit." Perfect example of how the NRA brainwashes simpletons with carefully selected statistics, relying upon the reader's lack of inference to see the real picture.



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Or that most of your mass shootings are caused by left leaning individuals.
Prove this, otherwise I have no option but to believe that you're clinically retarded and unable to focus long enough to google.
Does it surprise you to hear that I typically vote republican? Or that I live in a state with some of the most lenient firearm laws in the nation? Partisan politics is for sheep.
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:34 PM
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also unless you've personally witnessed a living human being (preferrably one you know) crumple up and slowly bleed to death from a gunshot you probably don't have a full understanding of the destructive and evil nature of the firearm. tell me 1 positive thing that has come from firearms, except for "i can use it to defend myself from another person with a firearm"
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:46 PM
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also unless you've personally witnessed a living human being (preferrably one you know) crumple up and slowly bleed to death from a gunshot you probably don't have a full understanding of the destructive and evil nature of the firearm. tell me 1 positive thing that has come from firearms, except for "i can use it to defend myself from another person with a firearm"
The time me and my kids spend learning how to shoot; the meat I eat after bagging a deer/squirrel/etc.

That's two off the top of my head and I've watched people slowly bleed from gunshot and other people instantly succumb to concentrated rifle fire.
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:49 PM
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hunting is actually p cool and venison is very tasty. i really ought to get into bow hunting again.

i guess the point i'm trying to prove isn't that responsible gun owners don't exist. most of you nerds on the internet are the case in point definition of responsible owners. look at this guy up here teaching his children gun safety at a young age. all i'm trying to say is that there isn't any good reason to keep a gun in your house since the likelihood of using it in self defense is astronomically low compared to the chance of killing yourself or an accident occurring.
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Old 12-04-2015, 09:26 PM
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A guy who spends probably well over 70% of his waking day on a elf sim forum posting in an attempt to feel validated... Calling others nerds.



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Old 12-04-2015, 09:33 PM
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also unless you've personally witnessed a living human being (preferrably one you know) crumple up and slowly bleed to death from a gunshot you probably don't have a full understanding of the destructive and evil nature of the firearm. tell me 1 positive thing that has come from firearms, except for "i can use it to defend myself from another person with a firearm"
That one positive thing really matters btw
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Old 12-04-2015, 09:55 PM
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A guy who spends probably well over 70% of his waking day on a elf sim forum posting in an attempt to feel validated... Calling others nerds.



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Old 12-05-2015, 03:50 AM
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I don't know about you guys wanting guns taken away in your shitty liberal states.

Here in Texas I can wear my 1911 on my shoulder holster for all to see while shopping in the mall starting January 1st. God I love this state.
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