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#151
10-01-2010, 02:02 PM
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And BTW it was not 100 joints in 5 min with a gas mask it was 30 joints a day for 90 days. then the monkeys we killed and autopsied the ones who got pot smoke had brain dmg, the ones who did not get pot smoke did not I am not sayign that the study was done in a correct manner 9the gas mask could have caused problems) but it does show monkeys that did smoke pot had brain dmg vs ones who did not had none. The study from 1991 only used 2 monkeys and never actully autopsied their brains just put an EEG machine to them and saw that their brain wave patter did indeed change after pot smoke Never once did they actuly autopsy the brain of the monekys to check conclusivly for brain dmg So yes that shit you posted is WRONG. Read the studies for yourself and see | |||
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#153
10-01-2010, 02:08 PM
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Myth: Marijuana Kills Brain Cells. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity.
Fact: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study. Heath, R.G., et al. “Cannabis Sativa: Effects on Brain Function and Ultrastructure in Rhesus Monkeys.” Biological Psychiatry 15 (1980): 657-690. Ali, S.F., et al. “Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey IV: Neurochemical Effects and Comparison to Acute and Chronic Exposure to Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in Rats.” Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behavior 40 (1991): 677-82. The reason they had brian cell loss is because they were suffocated you fucknut, they gave those 30 joints to them in 5 minutes. thats alot of smoke and not so much oxygen. | ||
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#154
10-01-2010, 02:11 PM
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http://everything2.com/title/Does+Po...ain+Cells%253F
Periodically, you'll hear someone claim that pot kills brain cells. Besides the fact that that's a vague, un-scientific claim, it's dumb. Here's why. The only research scientist who ever claimed that pot damages brain structures was a guy named Dr. Gabriel Nahas, who used to work for the National Institutes of Health in the 70's. He did a study on rhesus monkeys with marijuana, and his results seemed to indicate that pot caused brain damage, so the drug warriors like to include that little tidbit in their speeches, pamphlets, and so forth. The problem is that it isn't true. Dr. Nahas' research was astoundingly bad. After he published his study, dozens of scientists came forward to question his methods. He made pretty much every mistake someone can make - if this were a science project, he would have flunked. A few examples: * the size of the research group was small - only 4 monkeys. * there was no control group. * the amount of pot smoke the monkeys ingested was several thousand times higher than anything a human could smoke - these poor monkeys basically spent 16 hours a day in a room full of pot smoke. * Nahas misidentified normal monkey brain structures as "damaged." * in his bibliography, he cited 31 sources. Of those 31, 4 were legitimate. The rest were either quoted out of context in a misleading way, misquoted, or plain-old made up. * He lied about his results. The "brain damage" that he observed in the monkeys brains disappeared as soon as the monkeys stopped receiving marijuana, and he chose to not mention it in his report. So basically, this was like the world-class worst scientific study ever. It was so bad, he got shit-canned by the NIH, and he made a public speech disavowing the research, and admitting he messed it up. Why am I going on at such length? My point is, people still say that pot causes brain damage. The drug warriors are intellectually dishonest - they quote people like Gabriel Nahas in pamphlets, because they know most people aren't going to bother to look it up and find out whether Nahas was a complete moron or not (which he was). Doing something like that is, in my eyes, just as bad as lying, so when the Drug Czar makes a claim on TV or in a newspaper that just isn't true, to me, it's just as bad as Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." If they came out and told the honest truth about marijuana, it would be legalized. They know this. They feel justified in lying because it's the only way to keep pot illegal. But if you like government sources, heres one for you: In the late eighties, NORML (the pro-pot people) brought a lawsuit against the DEA, trying to get pot re-classified from a schedule I drug (along with cocaine and angel dust) to a class III drug (things like codeine). The DEA assigned a law judge named Francis Young to hear the case. It went on for two years. During the case, the judge heard thousands of hours of testimony from scientists, lawyers, doctors, policemen, and so forth, and he amassed something like 15 volumes of evidence. Let me be clear - Francis Young was an employee of the DEA, so he wasn't exactly unbiased. After two years of hearing the best the pro-pot and anti-pot forces could muster, his recommendation was that pot be immediately decriminalized. How about some quotes? He called marijuana "the safest therapeutic drug known to man." Was he wrong? He also referred to marijuana as "safer than water." It sounds weird, but it's true. It's theoretically impossible to overdose on marijuana, and no one has ever died from it. Compare that to Aspirin, which kills a few dozen people every year, or to any other commonly used drug or medication. In fact, compare it to water - believe it or not, it's actually possible to die from drinking too much water, and every year, a few people die from it. Which is, of course, a few more than pot. So how come pot wasn't decriminalized? Well, after Young presented his findings to the DEA, the DEA's response was: "um, we're not in charge of scheduling drugs, that's Health and Human Services' job." They passed the buck. Is this surprising? Not really. About every 20 years or so, the government appoints a task force to decide what to do about the "marijuana problem". Every time, they recommend decriminalization, and every time they are ignored. The first time I can find of this happening was with the British government in 1804. The most recent time was during the Reagan administration. He appointed a "Gold-ribbon task force" of lawyers, doctors, and cops, who also recommended that marijuana be decriminalized, and were also ignored. | ||
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#156
10-01-2010, 02:21 PM
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you are so retarded that you let others do your thinking for you. I actulyl read the studies with an open mind and if they would have been conclusive i would be the 1st to admit it. But they are not. So it all comes down to Read the studies for yourself | |||
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#158
10-01-2010, 02:27 PM
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"* the amount of pot smoke the monkeys ingested was several thousand times higher than anything a human could smoke - these poor monkeys basically spent 16 hours a day in a room full of pot smoke."
"The reason they had brian cell loss is because they were suffocated you fucknut, they gave those 30 joints to them in 5 minutes. thats alot of smoke and not so much oxygen." "Ok bro, ill try my hardest to find this info. Ive ready it before. They burned like 100 joint worth of pot into the gas masks of monkeys in under 5 minutes. so yeah that would kill you too dumbass." So which was it? Can you please eleborate cause just in the dosage you have contradicted yourself 3 times. Guess you really are just either makign shit up or have no clue or all the pot smoke has made you too stupid to know what you have previously posted | ||
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#159
10-01-2010, 02:28 PM
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Just copy-paste the part of the research where you claim it says THC kills brain cells, please. Don't try to quote parts about anything else.
I want the part that says THC kills brain cells. Quote me that part, if you can find it. | ||
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