p99 red is ruined by this patch

[Tavrin]

Originally Posted by slizzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still don't understand why a melee that has been stripped of buffs (IE no resist magic) and is tashed thinks they should be totally immune to any and all CC...Oh yea, it is 'classic' I keep forgetting as a caster!

Back to meleequest and bowquest.

They way I remember 'classic' was no casters and all melee too, my memory is just a bit foggy I guess.

CC's didn't land on live against geared opponents unless you could coordinate a tash + malo after pillaging all buffs; and even then it was iffy if the person was well geared.

The reason this server is meleequest has nothing to do with the MR resists, it's due to AC not working and hit rate being way to high; at least in the general sense, there may be more to it with max hit % as well or avoidance calculations.

Melee's here simply do massive amounts of damage compared to live. The hitbox changes have helped since it makes the melee have to work a little more, but didn't fix the core issue.

If the melee damage was brought in line with what was experienced on live, the need to CC so you don't die in 2 rounds to a rogue isn't needed.

Making it easier to CC while keeping melee damage high is the worst of both worlds, and turns this server into an assist train splatfest where pvp lasts seconds.

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Red99 is VZTZ now?

Spam root and melee train ftw. Any caster saying this is a good change is an absolute moron. Only people this benefits are those with the most melee to root melee train.

Try surviving longer than 2 seconds to a few melees on you as a rooted enc. Bazia asking for his own demise lol

As a caster i would much rather get rooted myself being tashed and use my pumice to remove it than have absolutely no way to keep a melee off me that will devour my lifepool in seconds.

The problem is melee dmg being set wayyyyy too high. You shouldn't die the second your rooted to a melee u should have 3 seconds to spare to remove malo, tash, root etc. I don't know why we're all supposed to pretend you cant remove these things. While acting like every rogue and monk isn't equipped with a skean/t-staff with one proc that equals insta death.

I've been chain t-staff proc'd for 24 secs flat and only survived because i caught heals and was raid buffed at the time . But that's ok because it's classic but meanwhile melee hitting 2x harder than they did on live isn't classic but that's ok.

I don't see why we don't add manaburn and lifeburn because it's the same thing as a rogue poisoning you. At least you can interrupt a manaburn.

[Aesop]

Originally Posted by Burgerking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a caster i would much rather get rooted myself being tashed and use my pumice to remove it than have absolutely no way to keep a melee off me that will devour my lifepool in seconds.

The problem is melee dmg being set wayyyyy too high. You shouldn't die the second your rooted to a melee u should have 3 seconds to spare to remove malo, tash, root etc. I don't know why we're all supposed to pretend you cant remove these things. While acting like every rogue and monk isn't equipped with a skean/t-staff with one proc that equals insta death.

I've been chain t-staff proc'd for 24 secs flat and only survived because i caught heals and was raid buffed at the time . But that's ok because it's classic but meanwhile melee hitting 2x harder than they did on live isn't classic but that's ok.

I don't see why we don't add manaburn and lifeburn because it's the same thing as a rogue poisoning you. At least you can interrupt a manaburn.

You seem rustled Burgerking, are you rustled?

[Burgerking]

Originally Posted by Aesop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem rustled Burgerking, are you rustled?

You seem like an idiot, are you an idiot?

[SamwiseRed]

some real morons here if you think anyone with a brain is spamming root in mass pvp. fuckin idiots.

wish casters would just cast root on me. shit where are these bad pvpers at?

[SamwiseRed]

hey guize during that mass peeveepee i casted root 20 times and rooted 3 people. man cant believe we lost. maybe i should have casted a nuke or something. I could have healed a few of you but i know that pros root in pvp so i didnt. i think some of the melees should re roll casters so we can field more roots.

said noone ever.

[Bazia]

Originally Posted by MaSQue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so basically enchanters are more screwed now than they were to start with correct?

based on the 4 pvp encounters I have engaged in today yes, it feels like haynar made CC spells harder to land than before but also reverted tash back to normal so all the patching accomplished was making spells that were already incredibly difficult to get to land even more so

[SamwiseRed]

i think alot of these problems would be solved with GRADUAL changes. like nerfing hitboxes should have not gone straight to what it is. debuff % should not have gone straight to whatever it was. you need to fine tune these things if you are trying to balance. that being said I am glad Hayner is helping red. I just think we need to be conservative with changes so we can see how they affect the meta.

[Bazia]

cant blame him for tuning when there is 2 patches a year u feels

stil lappreciate the work haynar

[SamwiseRed]

the thing is i think resist can be changed without patch. its something alecta put in before he died in RL