Stop the Socking

[Gimp]

Nobody's gonna read all that shit

[Buhbuh]

Play Red and eliminate all these problems today!

We all have dreams... I know I do!

[Joyelle]

I have dreams where all these threads aren't peppered with "Play Red!" posts. And then I wake up.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Play Red!"

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[Erati]

just love the fact back in the day if you complained about someone 'jav-spamming' for FTE they would say

LOL WUT TRY HARDER BRO....I LIVE TO JAV SPAM

even tho it was highly likely many people were cheating and getting away with automated jav-spam

Right now we have a system that is basically the same thing as jav-spam ( coh ducking) however its impossible to autofire your COH duck so now that PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PRESS THEIR BUTTONS...the complaints are

OMGZ GUYZ PLS STOP!!!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN THIS IS INHUMANE


just hypocritical all around, but I agree with Lazie that mages create an unfair barrier of entry for any guild that wants to dip into the FFA pool.

and while Sirken does mention binding in the post I linked, surely when he said 'mages are ok' that he understood COHing would be a part of that....

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just love the fact back in the day if you complained about someone 'jav-spamming' for FTE they would say

LOL WUT TRY HARDER BRO....I LIVE TO JAV SPAM

even tho it was highly likely many people were cheating and getting away with automated jav-spam

Right now we have a system that is basically the same thing as jav-spam ( coh ducking) however its impossible to autofire your COH duck so now that PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PRESS THEIR BUTTONS...the complaints are

OMGZ GUYZ PLS STOP!!!!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN THIS IS INHUMANE


just hypocritical all around, but I agree with Lazie that mages create an unfair barrier of entry for any guild that wants to dip into the FFA pool.

and while Sirken does mention binding in the post I linked, surely when he said 'mages are ok' that he understood COHing would be a part of that....

Any macro keyboard can automate a coth duck. Still need to be at the computer for the most part, but you needed to for jav spamming as well. Macro that will cast, wait 9 seconds, duck, cancel cast, repeat. Simply disable it (toggle switches work on the razer keyboards / G series) when the mob spawns. I guarantee more than a few are doing this exact thing. It does however eliminate ping based advantages so that's something.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right now we have a system that is basically the same thing as jav-spam ( coh ducking) however its impossible to autofire your COH duck so now that PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PRESS THEIR BUTTONS...the complaints are.

It would easy to write an autohotkey script to make this purely automatic. I could even have it scan the log file and abort the ducking automatically. If anyone has a Prayers of Life they aren't that attached to, I think I can make this happen.

[Juryiel]

Without reading the thread (so these may have been suggested), ways to completely eliminate poopsocking:

1. Everything is rotated, no races
2. Everyone is given an ability that self-ports you to a random EQ zone. You must use this ability once after a raid mob spawns prior to being allowed to engage it. Using this ability at any other time is somehow prevented.
3. Everything spawns at once.
4. Everyone has the option to immediately teleport to a mob's zone when mob pops.

Most of these are horrible suggestions but without eliminating the benefit of poopsocking, or clearly defining what it is and banning it by some simple rule (and you must be content with the specific thing you define as poopsocking as players will exploit the technicalities of the definition to the max), you will not get rid of it.

It is even difficult for players themselves to come to a no poopsocking agreement because server staff value and promote competition, and poopsocking is by far one of the largest determining factors of who will win said competition. In fact it makes almost no sense to promote 'competition' but be against 'poopsocking' with the current ruleset since they both amount to generally the same thing.

[Uuruk]

My question is how is it fun to compete with 10 guilds raiding on blue? What enjoyment do you get out of being told what mobs you can kill?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My question is how is it fun to compete with 10 guilds raiding on blue? What enjoyment do you get out of being told what mobs you can kill?

See, these are the red recruitment messages I can get behind. Gotta keep that shit insidious.