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[Sidelle]

Barkingturtle = double rainbow.

[Azure]

Yeah, actively removing and censoring information created a Streisand effect. More widely distributing and preserving said information. The best thing for shifty hoaxsters to do is to ignore valid skeptism entirely. Or to subvert it with misinformation or trying to ridicule it covertly. Or to flood other more shiny information over the tubes.

All of wich happens. The tubes are specifcally flawed by design to facilitate this. My hunch is that in googles case this is purposeful. As well as obfuscated.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Misto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha.

Holy shit. The comment in that video.

At 3:15 the guy walking towards the guy in the blue jacket on the right side of the screen takes like 20 steps almost like he's on a treadmill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbGfYMBh5Fo

lol holy shit I see what you're talking about, that is fucking weird

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Misto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha.

Holy shit. The comment in that video.

At 3:15 the guy walking towards the guy in the blue jacket on the right side of the screen takes like 20 steps almost like he's on a treadmill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbGfYMBh5Fo

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol holy shit I see what you're talking about, that is fucking weird

Regarding the giant cop, the treadmill man, the leg going through the wood and the people seemingly walking into the wall, as well as the distance to the shed I suggest you look into what happens when you take a wide-angle telephoto lens, tilt it at a downward angle and zoom. Suffice to say, depth perception nightmare is an understatement. The cop car on the furthest left in the background is easily over one hundred feet from the building but it doesn't look that way because of the angle, the same for people "walking through the wall", it's much more plausible to consider that there's another vehicle parked around the corner that people have to weave around to continue in that direction. Just look at this video that claims the very same thing, pay attention to the second overhead shot, even with the black SUV 15 feet away from the wall, several people have to go around it to get where they are going, the angle in the rest of the video would not allow you to see anything that's there, otherwise you'd also be able to see the end of the building that finishes the L shape of the structure.

The blue hue on the house/pant leg could be explained by a green-screen, however it could also be explained by several other visual related phenomenon. Notice the man in blue right of center, when he turns, his water bottle and white skin on his hand do not exhibit the blue hue, only the left half of the recording suffers from this due to the distortion of the lens, it happens to everyone walking by and not just to lights/whites. On the topic of green screen, that wouldn't explain the woman's leg going through the wood, again it's simply an optical illusion.

There's a reason for everything that happens. Sometimes you just need to think about it for a few minutes instead of trying to jump to a conclusion (Steel beams melt at 2750F, that doesn't mean they are at 100% strength at 2749F *forehead smack*). You feel kind of silly when you realize things like that.

Since it's only a 40 minute drive for me, at some point in the near future I may even go to the site to photograph the area just to see with my own two eyes the optical illusion with that very same shed. I'd be doing that for me not for you guys though. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Patriam1066]

The conspiracy goes back even further than you know G13:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI

Holy shit Baphomet must be after us

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Suffice to say, depth perception nightmare is an understatement.

The Michael Brown shooting, which to imbeciles like G13 is undoubtedly just another conspiracy, is also a great example where a distance seems very simple to determine on video but the angle makes it nearly impossible to come up with an accurate figure. Dozens of experts have been unable to square the distance between Brown and the police officers in that video.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Polyphemous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Steel doesn't have to melt to lose strength. It can lose its temper far below its melting point, which is what happened to the structural steel in the towers.

Again, these bogus NIST report contentions have already been debunked in this thread

1) NIST only allowed 3 weeks for a public peer review of their bogus report. This was a report that consisted of 10K pages. It took years and over 200K man hours to produce this report. Yet they gave only 3 weeks to peer review it before proclaiming it was "case closed science"

2) The assumptions NIST used for when the fires started and how hot they were burning completely contradicted eyewitness reports

3) The NIST report also contradicts itself on when fires started on specific floors and what temperatures they were

4) NIST made wildly unsupported assumptions on how much flammable and combustable material actually occupied certain floors and relied upon eyewitness information to make these assumptions of people that didn't even work in these areas on those floors

5) NIST only assumed RDX was used an explosive. This is in violation of NFPA protocol. That's case closed right there that NIST is nothing more than a Government smoke screen

6) NIST wrote a legal disclaimer in their report which states engineers cannot be held responsible for falsifying evidence

7) NIST states in their report that no tall building had ever collapsed due to fire (which is true). Amazing that we had 3 major engineering structural firsts in the history of building making on 9/11) yet the media was reporting foreknowledge of these impending collapses before these building actually fell.

BBC even reported that building 7 collapsed when it was still standing. The reporter is reporting that it collapsed while you can still see building 7 standing in the background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI

8) NIST acknowledges that the first 100 ft of the building 7 collapse happened at free fall speed. Fire cannot do this.

9) No engineer that worked on the report was ever given access to all of the information and all of the evidence. They were grouped in bubbles.

10) The NIST computer models of the collapse did not match the actual collapse

11) NIST has never published their modeling data. It has never been peer reviewed

12) NIST assumed no thermal conductivity of steel or concrete in their model. Steel doesn't conduct heat?

13) NIST doctored their model to get maximum thermal expansion. They never even calculated the concrete in their assumptions when concrete has the same thermal efficiency as steel. They expand at the same rate. Why do you think they reinforce steel with concrete in the first place? The concrete adds lateral support to resist thermal expansion

14) NIST completely the sheer studs that were used to reinforce the concrete and steel. Why would they do that?

15) NIST completely ignored eyewitness accounts of explosions

And to try to claim that all the 9/11 Predictive Programming (with very specific references to demolition and terrorism leading up to the false flag attack that are littered throughout all music/movies for literally decades) is just "coincidence theory" and laughably naive. 9/11 has to be the most popular date in movie history. What amazing accuracy. All random chance or something.

If you're a betting man you should ask The Beastie Boys who they like in the 5th

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[Dior]

Is flying a plane into a tower really that complicated of an idea?

Why would they have to blow the towers at all? There were no amount of firefighters that could have turned that inferno off, unless anyone is suggesting that the planes flying into the towers were also a gubment illusion, the amount of firefighters needed to turn that fire off would be massive. Them towers were coming down regardless. You think a tower that size would simply be swept up and put to working order again?

Also, why would they need to bring the towers down? Unless the head conspirator was Michael Bay, I don't see the need for anyone needing the towers to come down. The planes flying into the towers would be excuse enough for 'Murika to start another war on the world.

I know everyone is going for that 2006 gold standard of trolling here, but ya gotta bring something more than the stupid shit others have used before.

And I'm still waiting for one of you pussies to do something about DA GUBMENT CONTRLIN UR BRANS WIF THE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIA. Please guys, make this thread amazing. Do something and record. Do it for me. Do it. For America.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Dior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is flying a plane into a tower really that complicated of an idea?

Why would they have to blow the towers at all? There were no amount of firefighters that could have turned that inferno off, unless anyone is suggesting that the planes flying into the towers were also a gubment illusion, the amount of firefighters needed to turn that fire off would be massive. Them towers were coming down regardless. You think a tower that size would simply be swept up and put to working order again?

not always...

[G13]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding the giant cop, the treadmill man, the leg going through the wood and the people seemingly walking into the wall, as well as the distance to the shed I suggest you look into what happens when you take a wide-angle telephoto lens, tilt it at a downward angle and zoom. Suffice to say, depth perception nightmare is an understatement. The cop car on the furthest left in the background is easily over one hundred feet from the building but it doesn't look that way because of the angle, the same for people "walking through the wall", it's much more plausible to consider that there's another vehicle parked around the corner that people have to weave around to continue in that direction. Just look at this video that claims the very same thing, pay attention to the second overhead shot, even with the black SUV 15 feet away from the wall, several people have to go around it to get where they are going, the angle in the rest of the video would not allow you to see anything that's there, otherwise you'd also be able to see the end of the building that finishes the L shape of the structure.

Oh hey it's the lying fucking fraud

/wave

Sorry, you can't debunk it. It clearly shows in the video how far away and what angle that shed was to the firehouse. The entire side of the firehouse is nowhere to be seen in the shot. Given the angle that's not possible.

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Look at the angle of the shot. Now look and see how far away the shed is. Stop being a lying fucking fraud pushing feeble attempts at debunking Truth

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Look above their heads. It's completely washed out. Pay close attention to the branches in the planter. It's case closed that Sandy Hook is a fraud.

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This video is the smoking gun of a green screen. Specifically the part where you see the people walk literally through the car in the front of the shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_8rrTeWt_w

Go ahead and pause it at 1:43-1:45. Look at the right corner. You can't debunk that. Period.

Pause it at 2:35. You're telling me the guy doesn't budge? A car drives up behind you that close and you don't move a muscle? it's the camera lens right? You lying fucking fraud. Next you'll be claiming you have a personal connection that guy and talked to him and that there is nothing to see here move along.

The planter alone is also a smoking gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3p66gbFAT4

Notice the branches during the green screen prop shots. See above picture

Pause it at 1:04 of this video. It's just dirt. You can't debunk that.

Watch this video from 30-48 seconds. You will see a clear distinction between the 2 planters. This is like catching the bank robber in the vault stuffing money in the bag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_8rrTeWt_w

Notice the complete lack of branches in the shots at the actual location

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No branches at the actual location. Just dirt. A lens do that too?

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A clear difference between the two

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You can't debunk that. It's 100% case closed evidence of green screen fakery used. Sandy Hook is nothing but a hoax.

Here is an even bigger smoking gun. Here is an overhead shot of the firehouse the day of the shooting. This is as events are happening. Literally. No real concrete information was known. Look to the right. You will exactly 26 christmas trees neatly stacked and prepared because this entire hoax was a preplanned domestic psyop.

The media says the trees were donated by an anonymous source for a vigil that happened later. Amazing to know the exact body count and have all the trees cut and ready within a couple of hours of the first 911 call. A lens do that too?

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The blue hue on the house/pant leg could be explained by a green-screen, however it could also be explained by several other visual related phenomenon. Notice the man in blue right of center, when he turns, his water bottle and white skin on his hand do not exhibit the blue hue, only the left half of the recording suffers from this due to the distortion of the lens, it happens to everyone walking by and not just to lights/whites. On the topic of green screen, that wouldn't explain the woman's leg going through the wood, again it's simply an optical illusion.

Notice the man in blue with the water bottle glide to the right magically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_DK1g4OIA

Go ahead. Replay it over and over from 18-21 seconds. You can't debunk that.

There's a reason for everything that happens. Sometimes you just need to think about it for a few minutes instead of trying to jump to a conclusion (Steel beams melt at 2750F, that doesn't mean they are at 100% strength at 2749F *forehead smack*). You feel kind of silly when you realize things like that.

Since it's only a 40 minute drive for me, at some point in the near future I may even go to the site to photograph the area just to see with my own two eyes the optical illusion with that very same shed. I'd be doing that for me not for you guys though. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The entire thing is a lying fucking fraud just like you