Saraya - level 53 unguilded enchanter - Ninja Looter

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Exmo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe that's officially the rule? I'm happy to be corrected, But I thought that if you didn't kill it you don't loot it was the server standard.

So if someone clears a camp of, lets say Orcs in crushbone, doesn't loot any of them, but goes and fights at another uncontested camp. It would be considered ninja looting for someone to loot the belts off the Orcs after the loot timer has expired? Is that correct?

[HethGnome]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if someone clears a camp of, lets say Orcs in crushbone, doesn't loot any of them, but goes and fights at another uncontested camp. It would be considered ninja looting for someone to loot the belts off the Orcs after the loot timer has expired? Is that correct?

Yes, by definition that would be ninja-looting. But as the long-winded fellow above pointed out, you can't really compare crushbone orcs to verina tomb.

[Aeaolena]

I am 17 pages late to this thread, but I am glad this asshole is banned.

Ninja looting - especially an epic mob - is one of the biggest classic EQ Taboos. You can basically kiss your reputation goodbye. Apparently this person thought so little of themselves that they stood over the corpse spam-clicking it. They made their bed.

And I know it sucks to be a friend or acquaintance of Saraya and to come across the news of his actions out of the blue. But... it is probably in your best interest not to come here and try to find shades of grey. It makes you look bad in the public eye of the rest of the server, because it shows the rest of us you cannot fully conceive just how bad Ninja Looting is.

Basically, be careful not ruin your own p1999 reputation on behalf of someone who you didn't know as well as you thought you did.

[Castigate]

You're missing that that's not the ninja loot rule.
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...19&postcount=1

[Kekephee]

I don't know if you're trolling, and I want to not be a dick here, so let me try to actually answer your question: There's a pretty major difference between an epic mob that spawns once a week and 5 crushbone orcs that will respawn in 20 minutes in a zone full of crushbone orcs. Putting that aside, there's another huge problem with your question: why did you actually go out of your way to mention in your example that someone leaves the corpses to go to another camp? You could just as easily have said someone runs up to the camp where they're fighting and spam-clicks the corpse until it opens up and they steal it from the people who it belongs to, which would be relatable to this situation, as opposed to something completely different and absolutely not related.


Which, I would say, yes, is ninja looting, and in a world where the GMs wouldn't laugh in your fucking face for wasting their time on a Crushbone Belt ninja loot, yes, I believe they would move the item to its rightful owner. Not that that world exists. I know if I were a GM I would be very, very sore having to spend a minute of my time on such a stupid, low-stakes item conflict.


I think I'm going to go ahead and retire from this thread because this shit was settled like a day and a half ago, it's over, there's no point in any of this, it's just keeping bad mojo on the front page of the server board and I'm not about that, and also I'm so tired of it

[Glenzig]

I'm just trying to figure out where the imaginary line is drawn so i dont do something stupid one day and end up getting called out on the boards for it. Really just trying to understand the difference.

[Glenzig]

I guess I'm just confused as to why there is a loot timer that opens up ffa loot, if no one is ever supposed to use it.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I'm just confused as to why there is a loot timer that opens up ffa loot, if no one is ever supposed to use it.

"because the way the game is coded allows me to do it" is not an acceptable defense for being an asshole on here dawg

If thats how it worked I could just train somebody and say "Im just confused as to why im able to feign death mobs next to people if im never supposed to do it"

[Zalora]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"because the way the game is coded allows me to do it" is not an acceptable defense for being an asshole on here dawg

If thats how it worked I could just train somebody and say "Im just confused as to why im able to feign death mobs next to people if im never supposed to do it"

But the loot timer was specifically built into the game to allow the public access to items. It has nothing to do with ninja looting if you don't even loot your own items.

If you don't want to loot something then someone else can get it. This was how things were done in classic.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"because the way the game is coded allows me to do it" is not an acceptable defense for being an asshole on here dawg

If thats how it worked I could just train somebody and say "Im just confused as to why im able to feign death mobs next to people if im never supposed to do it"

Well, I kind of get what you're saying, but that's not really a great example. If you were to train someone you would be force ably exploiting game design. What I'm talking about is a passive game design that triggers on every single kill if you let it. Something that seems to have been put in the game for a purpose. But it seems that purpose is bannable in certain circumstances.
Btw. I don't really care about the Ench that looted the epic piece. I'm talking about in just an ordinary circumstance with regular type mobs. Seems a little harsh that someone would be able to call ninja loot on someone when they let the timer open up ffa loot.