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Old 03-07-2014, 12:53 PM
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I appreciate rogean doing something, ya'know, cause he's always doing stuff, for once, even if its an EXP decrease
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Old 03-07-2014, 01:21 PM
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TLDR holy shit.
lol such a contrast to hop from twitter to here

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Old 03-08-2014, 05:03 AM
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New here obviously, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. But "well if we're gonna have an xp bonus, we might as well just make everyone 50 for COD!!!" is about as sensible as "well if we wanna have a low-level community, we might as well just turn off xp entirely!!!"
hi tecmos, welcome to red. protip #1 dont take anything u read here personally, even when it comes from staff. that being said, i know you well enough to know that you know i know theres more than two choices. the CoD comment is because thats what 90% of the R99 forum community wants. they want to log in at 50 or 60 with epics, guises, spells, weapons, and get to cracking heads. the staff wants an actual community of people that are here to actually play everquest. we want people to care about their characters and accounts because of how much time they have already invested.

With super fast xp you can never have a 1-50 community because no one stays there long enough. unless a bunch of people join the server at the same time, they cant level together because taking a few days off the rest of them will leave you behind, starting a week after a player you cant group with them, and leveling so fast that casters cant even afford their lvl appropriate spells.

now with all that being said, i will say that i believe the pvp level range must be adjusted to +/- 4 levels with the closer to classic xp.

i'd also like to see the xp that was recently removed be replaced as some kind of an accumulating group bonus that grew higher with the amount of people in the group, as it would encourage full 6 man groups.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:12 AM
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With super fast xp you can never have a 1-50 community because no one stays there long enough. unless a bunch of people join the server at the same time, they cant level together because taking a few days off the rest of them will leave you behind, starting a week after a player you cant group with them, and leveling so fast that casters cant even afford their lvl appropriate spells.
I want to believe you, but that's a complete fable. I've seen zero people complain about this, and you have to be a giant moron to not be able to afford your spells. If I outleveled my friend I'd probably just plevel them to within range of me.

Considering you keep talking about bumping group exp and haven't done it, yet the server has been nerfed and there's now zero people playing 1-50, I'm likely to think you just wanted to nerf exp.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:20 AM
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Sirken and the staff like to take the Steve Jobs approach to not caring what the public thinks because they are too stupid to know what is good for them.
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The best thing to do at this point is a server wipe, and its not an unreasonable request. other words.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:29 AM
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Its just like any private server, you have a select group of people running the server playing incognito non-stop, People who are enemys are actually friends playing a political role adding drama while the real scene unfolds in the back. Tin tin tin, rin tin tin.
yep. you caught us. since the jig is up, i might as well fulfill my role as the bad guy and reveal the master plan.

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Old 03-08-2014, 06:32 AM
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we want people to care about their characters and accounts because of how much time they have already invested.
My played is 57 days on my sham and i stopped playing for huge chunks of times since red was launched, like at least 1.5 years hiatus total.

Havent even started to gear my 60 sham properly

I have a 45 druid and a 30 chanter

Thats alot of time invested, and im nowhere close to what some of the people here must be investing in their characters

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With super fast xp you can never have a 1-50 community because no one stays there long enough. unless a bunch of people join the server at the same time, they cant level together because taking a few days off the rest of them will leave you behind, starting a week after a player you cant group with them, and leveling so fast that casters cant even afford their lvl appropriate spells.
Again super fast xp is your perspective on things, not everyone has a PL crew behind them and even then i remember the hours that i got PLd by Nizzars monk wasnt lightning fast.

So you would like, a week after a player starts, to still be in grouping range of a level 1-4, thats the benchmark?

Staff interaction mostly feels like something they have to put up with to shut us up frankly, instead of being a serious discussion. Like you telling me Derubael was the only one to oppose Xp nerf when he did a long post argumenting that xp nerf was absolutely necessary on red 2-3 weeks before, what was that about.

I almost cant blame you for trying the ignore the forums as much as possible because theres alot of fucking idiots here but its up to the staff to set an example and set the bar high.

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To me bottom line was that its impossible by now the staff wouldnt know what would happen to the pop if they nerfed xp without other measures to prevent population loss

The only reason i got motivated to log back in after 8 months or so of not playing was that server was regularly hitting 150+ and i could see it snowballing up with Velious launch, with work put in by people like Heartbrand to have some blues jump ship from that blue rotation system.

Its been 2 weeks the server has been draining population with no extra measures taken to prevent it btw, each player that stops logging in might not ever come back

Tell us more about not caring about time invested when youre that careless with the fate of the server

Staff might not care if people start leaving but im sure people whove invested alot of time in their characters do, people like me
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:46 AM
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So putting my tin foil hat on, theres the possibility that theres something going on behind the scenes with Rogean putting red server out of legend status coincidentally as measures are applied to red that drains the population away and they actually want red to die. Its probably not that but youre making it real hard for me not to engage in theorycrafting it.
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:20 AM
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question.

if rogean wanted red to die, why wouldn't he just shut off the box?
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:29 AM
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question.

if rogean wanted red to die, why wouldn't he just shut off the box?
I said I put my tin foil hat on, its nowhere near on top of the list of things i think are happening with the server.

Keeping the tin foil hat on for fun, because it would put shades on everything he tries to do afterwards unless he would go out of his way to hide who he was. Oh sure, lets invest time on a Rogean server, so he pulls the plug on it out of the blue again, good idea.

Server hits 20 pop regularly though, then you can insert "Look guys we tried everything to bring the population up, even nerfing xp badly, its not working out. Thanks for playing, sorry but were calling it a day for red99"
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