I am pretty sure Nihi made up their own rule pls clarify Sirken

[freez]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rezzes were explicitly ordered by Nizzar, it wasn't people going rogue and doing it.


I guess my point is, Nizzar could have made it worse on you and he chose not to.

lol #1

lol #2

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by mrproudbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol seriously? Both sides could have tried TALKING with each other instead of opting for the "waste everyone's time" route. RD could have asked for LNS despite not actually dying to pvp, realizing the situation they were in. Nihilum could have allowed them to xp rez their folks and get out of dodge.

Remember, PNP is trumped by anything the parties involved agree to. It's not that hard to act like civil people to one another after a fight. We're all here to enjoy Everquest right? Taking the stance that "we didn't WANT to do this but we HAD to do this because of the PNP" is just being obtuse.

For the record, I wasn't involved in the fight at all last night. I logged in at the tail end of it and would have been too low level to be involved anyway. I still see plenty of people behaving like complete dickheads to each other.

So have HB type one line of text in OOC and pretend nothing happened? Being civil doesn't mean making it easy.

[mrproudbeard]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The simple fact of the matter is we had NO CHOICE but to YT people. Believe me, none of us wanted to waste our time doing that. We have absolutely no claim to zone control until we activate the PNP which is done only by a PVP kill.

That's the statement I'm arguing against. If that was the prevailing mindset of Nihilum last night that's the only thing I'm trying to point at. You are admitting it was a waste of time on your part to waste RD's time in such a manner. How is ANYONE winning in this situation? It's maddening. Let's just save all of ourselves time and say good game and move on to the next battle. If Nihilum couldn't/didn't want to kill Gore last night then RD could have tried again in an hour and you could have fought with them again in an hour. If Nihilum wanted Gore, after Red Dawn finished their cr/rez scoot you would have had ample time to do it and enjoy the spoils of your victory.

Instead, the option chosen was to spend the time offering to rez people in twice just so you could YT them once. The option that you claim "none of us wanted." Wake up and don't pick the option that "none of us wanted" next time? Look at that, the server slowly becomes a more enjoyable place for us to all Everquest on!

[Snufz]

Ya'll need to find Jesus.

[quido]

Kergan do you maybe know where I could get a good deal on some auto parts on the internet? Or maybe some halter tops?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kergan do you maybe know where I could get a good deal on some auto parts on the internet? Or maybe some halter tops?

amazon.com bro. I roll prime style.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by mrproudbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the statement I'm arguing against. If that was the prevailing mindset of Nihilum last night that's the only thing I'm trying to point at. You are admitting it was a waste of time on your part to waste RD's time in such a manner. How is ANYONE winning in this situation? It's maddening. Let's just save all of ourselves time and say good game and move on to the next battle. If Nihilum couldn't/didn't want to kill Gore last night then RD could have tried again in an hour and you could have fought with them again in an hour. If Nihilum wanted Gore, after Red Dawn finished their cr/rez scoot you would have had ample time to do it and enjoy the spoils of your victory.

Instead, the option chosen was to spend the time offering to rez people in twice just so you could YT them once. The option that you claim "none of us wanted." Wake up and don't pick the option that "none of us wanted" next time? Look at that, the server slowly becomes a more enjoyable place for us to all Everquest on!

I think Gore got a Nihilum tag last night so I'm not sure if we're permitted to attack her anymore. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess for me it is pretty simple. Just allowing someone to say in ooc "we give up" and then allowing a full CR is completely painless. There is no consideration of risk vs. reward of engaging a raid target. If RD would have given up contesting raid targets for 48 hours or something maybe if it were up to me I'd consider it?

You act like even your enemies are here for your enjoyment, it's kinda weird. Most people choose a PVP server because they enjoy the challenge of it. You've never hunted until you've hunted man! And for clarification what none of us wanted to do was have to deal with all the YTing to get zone control nonsense. Wiping your raid and making it a painful CR is a valid strategy in elven pixel warfare.

I really honestly do not mean this as an insult to you or your guild, but this general attitude of lets all have a friendly battle and go on our merry way is what the arena on a blue server for.

[freez]

tldr

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Gore got a Nihilum tag last night so I'm not sure if we're permitted to attack her anymore. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess for me it is pretty simple. Just allowing someone to say in ooc "we give up" and then allowing a full CR is completely painless. There is no consideration of risk vs. reward of engaging a raid target. If RD would have given up contesting raid targets for 48 hours or something maybe if it were up to me I'd consider it?

You act like even your enemies are here for your enjoyment, it's kinda weird. Most people choose a PVP server because they enjoy the challenge of it. You've never hunted until you've hunted man! And for clarification what none of us wanted to do was have to deal with all the YTing to get zone control nonsense. Wiping your raid and making it a painful CR is a valid strategy in elven pixel warfare.

I really honestly do not mean this as an insult to you or your guild, but this general attitude of lets all have a friendly battle and go on our merry way is what the arena on a blue server for.

You are reading too far into this and have immersed yourself into dangerous levels. PvP environments have existed where friendly competition occurred without nerd raging and sick rl hatred towards a guild from a 14 year old game.

Last night had nothing to do with competition or PvP. It was just a waste of time and as you mentioned a strategy to sacrifice 2 hours of your time at 1:00 am in the morning to "demoralize" a group of people lol. You are border line insane.

[heartbrand]

dunno literally was not griefed, wiped to a pve mob and logged with no YT after getting ragefire for 3rd night in a row