Lock Server Until an Agreement is Met

[JayN]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can not expect TMO, FE to have the same status as guild #9. Get real. Why play??

Sirken suggested 3 or 4 months ago to have the "Lower" Guilds to combine and knock TMO off. Did they do that... hell no.

So now all the lower guilds want something for basically nothing. Yeah right.
This has just turned into a welfare state just like in real life. Jesus just embarrassing as hell. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

QFTT twice

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can not expect TMO, FE to have the same status as guild #9. Get real. Why play??

Sirken suggested 3 or 4 months ago to have the "Lower" Guilds to combine and knock TMO off. Did they do that... hell no.

So now all the lower guilds want something for basically nothing. Yeah right.
This has just turned into a welfare state just like in real life. Jesus just embarrassing as hell. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why would they agree to anything at all, its the same for them either way lol. this is some bullshit.

SHUT IT DOWN!

fu eqmac

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. The hardcore raid environment should be preserved and encouraged or people are going to spread alts into other casual guilds. I have a few alts in the 50s that have never been guilded, why would I want to place them in TMO if they have a better chance to get loot in a Tier B guild that is handed mobs?

You should do that, place him in another guild and help them gear up so that guild can later legitimately compete with your shitty normal guild.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

explain

Read Rogean's response to monopolies. The point of the new rules is to stop a monopoly (even if it is just a few guilds doing it).

People who circumvent the new rules as a guild to sate their pixel lust should and will be banned.

Nothing is stopping people from having multiple characters in multiple guilds, but when a single guild tries to make another alt guild to raid with, I will enjoy seeing it and their main guild immediately banned.

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing is stopping people from having multiple characters in multiple guilds, but when a single guild tries to make another alt guild to raid with, I will enjoy seeing it and their main guild immediately banned.

Ok, then what happens when multiple people from one guild place alts in an existing Tier C guild. Is this guild going to be a default "alt guild" of the Tier A guild? How many members of a Tier A guild can have alts in the same secondary guild? What if multiple Tier A guilds band together and place just enough Alts in a pre-existing secondary guild to stay under said limits (raid cooperation!)? Who is going to track this?

The GMs already said that keeping track of everyone's alt is not practical from their end and it is not going to happen.

To demand an equal share of the proposed bag limit points, do you just need enough members to theoretically tackle a raid target? Three or Four groups of level 60s should be able to take the majority of these targets down. Place that many alts in a pre-existing Tier C guild, bam - that's a raid guild and deserves an equal share of the bag limit points.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hard core players have an agreement amongst themselves. Why should hardcore players not be allowed to play because casuals are stalling.

You claim this to be true... yet IB hasn't agreed to anything to my knowledge.

[emp82]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hard core players have an agreement amongst themselves. Why should hardcore players not be allowed to play because casuals are stalling.

Unless I'm mistaken the OP was talking about locking the entire server. The casuals I'm talking about are people who don't give 1/2 a shit about raiding but just want to play the game and remember how cool some of the rest of the game was.

I don't need raid content to be nostalgic.

[Elements]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You claim this to be true... yet IB hasn't agreed to anything to my knowledge.

What has ib killed on their own in the past 4 months? What do they have the numbers to even compete for?

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can not expect TMO, FE to have the same status as guild #9. Get real. Why play??

Sirken suggested 3 or 4 months ago to have the "Lower" Guilds to combine and knock TMO off. Did they do that... hell no.

So now all the lower guilds want something for basically nothing. Yeah right.
This has just turned into a welfare state just like in real life. Jesus just embarrassing as hell. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree. What's the point of being a top tier raiding guild if you can't be just that? So many people act like TMO has so much loot they don't know what to do with it. We do get new members regularly just like everyone else. TMO still needs a lot of VP and open world loot for mains, and many epics for mains. If we are more aggressive in obtaining in, why does that warrant some elaborate raid treaty? Such strange train of thought? This is now becoming the most ridiculous and dictated raid scene I've seen in all of my years of gaming... most specifically EQ.

Surely the staff didn't mean for it to go this far? This is laughable.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What has ib killed on their own in the past 4 months? What do they have the numbers to even compete for?

You sure are pretty important for being in TMO 2 whole months now, ya?

[sanforce]

IB = FE for all intents and purposes. If you raid together, then you get lumped into a single alliance.