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12-31-2013, 01:42 PM
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Remember when I didn't get on the "fuck TMO / blah blah blah I can't hear you fuck TMO" train? Remember when I said a calendar system CAN'T work with this group?
Go sign the agreement and be a part of the solution. If you hate me, think I'm a douche bag... just know by not signing that you are proving me right. So go ahead, rustle me jimmies. Prove me wrong. You won't [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. | ||
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12-31-2013, 01:42 PM
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LOL Alarti, no one's stated which list is more valid. That determination can only come from CSR. The difference is my list has precedent, what's your basis?
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12-31-2013, 01:43 PM
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Years of precedent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] However if you want to make a sky rotation..... oh wait.
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12-31-2013, 01:52 PM
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No mention of why Taken is included in your list. Incorrect fact(s) about BDA. So, what's your precedent again?
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12-31-2013, 01:42 PM
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Which 3? AFAIK, IB, BDA, and Taken have not signed? Why would any list not include guilds that can easily take down most if not all non-VP content?
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12-31-2013, 01:43 PM
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Ban guild raiding and make all raid targets open raids. Have guild officers or reps random on loot that drops winner gets to award to their guildmembers. That way the casual raiders get handed loot and the hardcore raiders can still raid..
This is Sarcasm and is no less than a lot of other posts here about how raids should be "fairly" split up. Oh and like a lot of the ideas being posted and commented on I have no authority to make such deals. Oh and at the end of the day you will not see one suggestion or idea that doesn't benefit the poster without hurting someone else but some are more balanced for risk vs effort than others. | ||
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12-31-2013, 01:57 PM
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It is no different than what is going on now, really. They just won't be able to organize as quickly. Scenario 1: Players sit around in EC waiting for mob to spawn. People start shouting they are forming a raid. Whoever recruits faster goes up. People start picking favorites and forming tight circles that become exclusive. Scenario 2: Players sit around in EC waiting for mob to spawn. Raid mob spawns, everyone has to ensure everyone has a ride to get there. Someone has to let their dog out and never comes back. Someone alt tabs and takes forever. Someone goes LD. Everyone waits. Players decide those people have taken too long. Mob is slain. Players come back 30 minutes later and petition that the entire group of players online who asked to be a part of the raid were skipped out on because of greed / they knew I needed the item too so they cut me out etc. | |||
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12-31-2013, 02:07 PM
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I really think the guild leaders and officers or select reps should be talking about these in private then taking the ideas back to their guilds on private forums so the ideas aren't buried in the tripe that is being thrown around in these threads. You have a few people here posting over and over again that don't agree and will never agree to the ideas being posted and they may or may not even be in a guild that raids and more than likely have no say in the decision anyway. I have said it several times to get a working solution the discussions need to be all in private with the guilds hearing about the ideas from their leaders. It is their leaders and officers responsibilities to make the decisions if you trust them to lead you then trust them to look out for your and your guild mates best interests. These threads attract trolls(myself unfortunately included atm) like shit attracts flies. | |||
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12-31-2013, 01:53 PM
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For the sake of clarity there are two proposals on the table at the moment. FE/TMO's plan as put forth by FE and TMO. The other plan was proposed by Divinity which every other guild has got behind. Each plan has it's merits. The FE plan has more FFA competition and the Divinity plan has 50% FFA and 50% serpentine draft rotation. Each side tried to make some concessions to their respective plans in an attempt to bring the sides closer together. Four hours later at 1am EST we agreed to reconvene on the 1st.
This isn't about propaganda, this isn't about manifesto, it's about trying to create an environment in which all guilds that currently exist and any future guilds that could exist will can thrive in. I'm honestly tired of the public bickering and posturing. The casual side of this debate will try to make additional concessions and I hope the hardcore side does the same to their plan so we can get this hammered out.
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