Solutions to the Tunnel Trainer.

[mixxit]

I'd just like to add this to the last part of this discussion and it will be my last post.

Before I was on the team I spent a lot of time submitting ideas and doing my best to provide tools or help out in different ways. I'm not saying all of you enjoy giving, heck it's quite obvious some of you enjoy taking and griefing. People have different ways of entertaining themselves.

But for those who sit there and demand things be provided or keep getting angry when they are waiting for content. Why not actually get involved.

You don't need Admin status to be able to collate classic information and post it a readable useful format on the forums. (And a lot of you wonderful players DO do this for us on a regular basis)

You don't need Admin status to discuss raid rules and come up with a solution (again a lot of you do)

You don't need Admin status to learn where bugs are occuring, report as much detail and provide possible solutions (<3 to the bug forum people)

I can quite honestly say that in my own experience working with you all is one of the reasons this server has got to the quality it has today (excluding the EXCEPTIONAL amount of time nilbog, aeol, rogean etc have dedicated to this project)

When we try to fix things we literally have to come to you guys for your wonderful archives of information, feedback and knowledge.

The only thing that doesn't actually get us anywhere nearer to implementing, fixing or updating things is coming on the forums throwing your toys around screaming. All you do is make it painful for everyone else and make yourself look like a fool when showing us the inner workings of your minds like your believe that we somehow need to stroke the 'egos of the godly Devs'

So to all of you players who see a problem and get to work on a solution with all the resources available to you I salute you. You truly are the most valuable type of member of this community.

To all of you who can't use your head and would rather throw a tantrum, well, you have a lot of growing up to do and should be ashamed if you're as old as most of the player base is from 1999.

[frefaln]

Thanks for that, Mixxit. I still stand by my posts 100%, so sorry I didn't sugar-coat them the way most others would.

At the end of the day, here's how it breaks down:

* Time it took for anyone to reply to my request to restore a level 39 character: 57 hours

* Time it took for Cyrius to run around EC acting like a hero because evil toons were getting trained: 57 seconds

Case closed.

[mmiles8]

Frefaln, Kebbon, Dude.

As a rule, I don't reply directly to folks who are trolling for a reaction, but I'm going to make an exception this once since I personally know you somewhat.

Up until very recently, even though you had done some stuff that wasn't the brightest idea at the time, you were still sort of in that "Weelllll...." category where it could be chalked up to a bad day and the circumstances.

Even when you made your post about trains being a good thing, and wanting to be more afraid of other people's stupidity than the mobs, I didn't personally see eye to eye with it, but I could see your point since you raised it like a rational human being. So now you're out there making ogres and dark elves all over EC and west freeport tremble at your own self-diagnosed stupidity.

You'll still leave a bad taste, but not so much once folks hear the whole story behind your personal situation. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that in your personal case, you may not be past the point of no return. Give the system a chance to catch up to you, and give due process a reasonable chance. But for the love of god stop acting like the rest of the banned idiots.

You're not one of them. You're better than the dipshits e-thuggin' it here that you've befriended since your ban. You let your impatience get the better of you.

I can not tell you how many times in my life I've gotten impatient, and kept plugging right along in spite of that, and been thankful that I continued to take the high road instead of lashing out like a wounded badger done poked with a stick. When you think you've waited long enough, wait longer, you'll realize what a fool you almost made of yourself in a few days, every single time.

So step back over from the dark side and start being reasonable again, or reasonable is the last thing you'll see from anyone here.

[frefaln]

Anleus, I think it's funny that you think you "personally know me" somewhat. Based on what, one MM group where you bossed everyone around (including yelling at Bitt the necro because he made the unforgivable sin of killing solos in between pulls)? You need to stop pretending like you know everything about EQ and its players. You don't.

And no, I haven't made a fool out of myself. I don't regret a single thing, because I've gotten more feedback and interaction with Devs in this one thread than my previous 1.5 months combined. Mission accomplished.

[Humerox]

I have only ONE suggestion. Can her run speed be increased without affecting anything else?

Make her fast enough that there's no way a level 1 can outrun her, even with a 50 SoW. Heck, make her fast enough 50 Selos won't outrun her, while yer at it.

Can't outrun her..no train.

[frefaln]

^ unfortunately that doesn't work with a pulling method I described earlier. A level 1 necro can easily park a pet by mob X, run clear across the zone and (assuming target hasn't switched) engage the pet and warp the mob all the way over.

If changing the NPC's tactics is truly on the table, then summoning seems the way to go. But this seems to be a slippery slope, because once EC is "locked down" the problem will most likely migrate elsewhere.

Since P99 is clearly the frontrunner in EQEmu, I'm curious how the partnership works between P99 Devs and the eqemulator.org folks? Is it not possible to enact IP banning at the account setup stage? Yes, proxies can get around that but as proxies are identified they can be banned too.

[Humerox]

Pets shouldn't be command-able that far away, anyway. Change that too, if it's an easy fix.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pets shouldn't be command-able that far away, anyway. Change that too, if it's an easy fix.

Lets not change that until live minos stop popping up at Exe/Sage/Frenzied/Lord/GODKNOWSWHEREELSE in lower guk, k? At least give us a chance to feign and poof our own pets before the other half of the zone warps on us, k?

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[Loftus]

This thread is comical.

Why should the devs have to do anything about it? We as a community could have chosen any zone we wanted to become the social place. We apparently chose EC again, as in live.

We have noone to blame but ourselves.

They are obviously banning people and doing what they can to prohibit griefing.

But, as already pointed out, you should rethink if you indiscriminitely go AFK or sit right in the line of fire in a zone that has KOS mobs able to kill you in it. Period.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lets not change that until live minos stop popping up at Exe/Sage/Frenzied/Lord/GODKNOWSWHEREELSE in lower guk, k? At least give us a chance to feign and poof our own pets before the other half of the zone warps on us, k?

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Lol. I honestly am only able to remember being able to poof the pet if it got lost in classic. I don't remember being able to have the pet attack once I was beyond a certain range. Could be wrong about that though.

The pet "go away" command should always be available.