Raiding in P1999 is nothing like raiding in classic.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest this thread boils down to "we're not getting mobs" so its "nothing like classic"

I couldn't disagree more unless you guys were in top raiding guilds on your servers during classic-Velious.

Now.. if you were in the PoP era (most people here I think are)... I can see why not getting Kunark/Velious mobs for you doesn't feel "classic".

qft

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest this thread boils down to "we're not getting mobs" so its "nothing like classic"

I couldn't disagree more unless you guys were in top raiding guilds on your servers during classic-Velious.

Now.. if you were in the PoP era (most people here I think are)... I can see why not getting Kunark/Velious mobs for you doesn't feel "classic".

But on topic, yeah. This.

[Tiddlywinks]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's be honest this thread boils down to "we're not getting mobs" so its "nothing like classic"

I couldn't disagree more unless you guys were in top raiding guilds on your servers during classic-Velious.

Now.. if you were in the PoP era (most people here I think are)... I can see why not getting Kunark/Velious mobs for you doesn't feel "classic".

Umm.. live did not have mob variances, sanctioned VP training, broken Ivaynders Hoops, and broken resist systems just to name a few.

I think there is quite a lot of things on this server that are "nothing like classic", some implemented intentionally.

[Nirgon]

For those of you who aren't able to devote the "on call" and "anything goes" play time to the raiding scene here... (and imagine that! and single, successful PvE server attracting so many greats of old having a godmode competitive raid scene..) I suggest you discover other things that made EQ great. Imagine if there were only 2 or 3 live servers... and all the skilled players were lumped onto them.

For instance? The solo artist challenge. Leveling and succeeding playing an odd race/class combo. Creating a group that regularly clears some odd dungeon and suddenly turning it into a favorite place to group for the community. Being a server personality known for some running gag etc.

I think people who compete in the solo artist challenge and compare notes, contribute to making the server more classic in the bugs section or play in an all Iksar guild are the real winners here. Stop making a leisure activity a job or setting ridiculous expectations and getting frustrated when you can't meet them.

I'd also stop challenging TMO and talking about destroying them. That is absolutely nuts. Try making friends with them, joining xp groups with their ridiculously strong alts (Jeremy runs some AoE chardok on Thursday iirc) and maybe getting into talks about them letting you have a different raid mob every other week.

For instance, despite what anyone in TMO probably says or thinks scattered across members, they are going to be primarily a Giant faction guild... like it or not to start and for quite some time. I'd suggest your guilds trying to be the best dragon faction guild and playing at sane and leisurely hours in Velious. If it's about loot... check out the halls of testing quests or compare dragon faction armor per slot vs kael per slot. Hell, you can be the plane of mischief farm guild too. PoM armor was droppable for several months from Velious release too :P.

If your collective intentions are "we're going to wake the sleeper / start taking every Phara Dar" and destroy TMO/the server... you need to get your head examined. You (collectively) in 99.9% of cases on live did not have 3-4 phara dar loots, you don't *deserve* them and the game *is* fun without them... if you don't play it like a meth addicted pixel head.

Hard concepts!

[Strifer]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being a server personality

If I had more time, I'd love to be actually raiding and stuff other than trolling RnF. I can't though so this works.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For those of you who aren't able to devote the "on call" and "anything goes" play time to the raiding scene here... (and imagine that! and single, successful PvE server attracting so many greats of old having a godmode competitive raid scene..) I suggest you discover other things that made EQ great. Imagine if there were only 2 or 3 live servers... and all the skilled players were lumped onto them.

For instance? The solo artist challenge. Leveling and succeeding playing an odd race/class combo. Creating a group that regularly clears some odd dungeon and suddenly turning it into a favorite place to group for the community. Being a server personality known for some running gag etc.

I think people who compete in the solo artist challenge and compare notes, contribute to making the server more classic in the bugs section or play in an all Iksar guild are the real winners here. Stop making a leisure activity a job or setting ridiculous expectations and getting frustrated when you can't meet them.

I'd also stop challenging TMO and talking about destroying them. That is absolutely nuts. Try making friends with them, joining xp groups with their ridiculously strong alts (Jeremy runs some AoE chardok on Thursday iirc) and maybe getting into talks about them letting you have a different raid mob every other week.

For instance, despite what anyone in TMO probably says or thinks scattered across members, they are going to be primarily a Giant faction guild... like it or not to start and for quite some time. I'd suggest your guilds trying to be the best dragon faction guild and playing at sane and leisurely hours in Velious. If it's about loot... check out the halls of testing quests or compare dragon faction armor per slot vs kael per slot. Hell, you can be the plane of mischief farm guild too. PoM armor was droppable for several months from Velious release too :P.

If your collective intentions are "we're going to wake the sleeper / start taking every Phara Dar" and destroy TMO/the server... you need to get your head examined. You (collectively) in 99.9% of cases on live did not have 3-4 phara dar loots, you don't *deserve* them and the game *is* fun without them... if you don't play it like a meth addicted pixel head.

Hard concepts!

Nirgon wins!

[Tiddlywinks]

For the record, I don't think anyone is saying beating TMO in VP or elsewhere or doing whatever is impossible, I think they're saying it's bullshit the way it's intentionally different from the way it was in classic.

That's my point at least.

[Ravager]

By the way, I think your analogy to the analogy is spot on and a good example of why it's a poor analogy. You'd never describe the sun as a candle in anything other than an abstract concept, like poetry, or in an argument such as this to make a lousy point. My point is it's a comical analogy, because even the similar things being compared are so disparate.

[Raavak]

All this monopoly crap on a day that Forceful Entry got Trakanon over TMO. Seems really irrelevant.

[Ravager]

The problem isn't that the rest of the server wants everything, it's that TMO does.