Is the raid scene really that bad?

[Wotsirb401]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there was alot of nice people in VD, before IB tangled with vd and used them because it was a use of their numbers and a few of their elite players.


VD was the perfect guild for people hittin lvl 50, lots of guild groups in early kunark and almost 2 days raid to fear and hate.

even i remember before ib they took down sisters and and bee boss or that is what kmorrax and others told me.


VD then become the target of IB to boost their every time smaller numbers and to regain his status as number 1.
at first worked but, as always noobs+elitist dont work well. and then tmo win the upperhand again.


once ib rmt and left server VD tried to stand by himself instead to make peace with tmo and go back his old and imo better path and use the learns of the time they fougth tmo to make them even better.



they tried then to figth for number 1 and well it didint worked very well.

Very true, we were doing fine as a semi casual guild, doing planar clears, doing chardok etc. We had a lot of fun and it seemed like nothing could break us up. One day it seemed that IB was finally getting bored of sweeping every mob without any push from TMO or any other guilds, so members began doing what happens to everyone in life. They got bored and numbers started to suffer so they went to the next best guild (VD) and started having us tag along on raids and we started parking out at Trak to begin with and then it snowballed into all the other raids. Eventually when that fizzled out and people started to fight etc and VD was by themselves again. The former VD did not want to go back after all of that excitement, officers left to server to EQ MAc during the giant RMT purge of 2012 and vd merged with BDA to form VDA etc etc. You all know the rest

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I seem jaded, but I can't take any of the posts that say "We can change if the guilds work together!" seriously.

Top raiding guild does not care about the raid scene changing from what it is. There is no benefit for them to share mobs with the rest of the server. Maybe they're greedy, but it's a fricken computer game. They aren't out waving steak dinners in front of homeless people; it is a game.

Staff does not care about the raid scene changing from what it is. Maybe when they are done with creating content, they will take more interest in player raid change ideas on the server, but I'm not betting on it. The goal of the project is to create a Classic EverQuest server, not provide the highest possible fun experience for players. Hence a hands off approach on dealing with the players unless someone is exploiting or doing something detrimental to the box. I mean they invented non-classic features such as variance and FTE shouts to be able to be more hands off.

With the understanding that the staff's primary goal is to "create" and not "regulate" a server and that the top guild who controls the raid content is not interested in change in the raid scene, everyone should realize that things are not changing on this server in terms of things like enforced rotations, etc. Until Zeelot gives the big stamp of approval on some server wide raid change or some guild gains and never loses momentum while poaching raid targets away (right...ha), we are playing with the same status quo.

While this is a emulated server, the player base as a majority has chosen to be a lot more hardcore than the majority that was on live, and I suppose that's just the type of diehard players a 14 year old game attracts or the effect of Kunark being out longer than both Kunark and Velious existed on live.

Maybe we can reassess when Velious is out for six months and see if anything has changed.

That pretty much hightlights all of the issues nicely. I'm glad we could come together as a community and have this discussion.

See all of you in a couple of days when the next 30 page thread concerning the raid scene and how messed up it is shows itself.

In the meantime, enjoy the bantering and bickering this thread is sure to bring over the next 15+ pages after the OP asked a simple question!

P.S. OP: if this thread or any of the others involving this topic still haven't answered your question feel free to PM myself or a more knowledgable player immediately! thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Era'viss]

I absolutely love the open zone, no instance world that is EQ. It rewards those who can dedicate the time and assemble the organization that will allow players to reap the benefits. Nothing wrong with that at all. More exciting that all those other MMOs out there these days.

I completely support whatever top dog guild there is at any time, because they aren't just handed victories and nicely timed server resets for instances.

The only time I would ever be upset with top guild members is if they were complete jerks all the time.

To the OP: Every TMO person I've met were nice and extremely helpful. Base any of your opinions about them on your own experiences with them directly.

[Roku]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no justification for the greedy shit that goes down on this server.

Yes there is, RMT.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Era'viss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just handed victories

the content itself is actually somewhat challenging when you don't zerg it down with 50+

[finalgrunt]

Raid scene may or may not be bad depending on your involvement and expectations.

If you want to kill all targets, join TMO. If you want to see and kill most targets join guild #2 of the moment. Either way, you need to be prepared to sometimes (often) go full retard. As long as you turn a blind eye and plug your ears, you'll remain somehow innocent.
If you want to experience classic raiding, this is probably the wrong place.
If you don't mind killing one or two targets a year, any other guild will do.

[spoils]

how about a unified outcry for simulated patch days! let all thousands of us get on our knees and grovel for patch days!

Still preserves competition, allows for some small guilds to get some phatz, etc...

"what about euros?" switch off one sim patch day during american primetime, completely randomized, and another during euro/asian primetimes...

Just do it.

[runlvlzero]

Judging by 8 pages of exciting reads it sounds like you guys are having a ton of !FUN! over here. Its almost as good as the one time I played PnP DnD with my pals.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's quite funny to see the sarcastic responses from TMO members.


Here is their current stock of raid loot for sale: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=119673


Oh, and yeah...epics were pretty hard to acquire and rare in kunark era, but Kunark didn't last 2 years on live. There is no justification for the greedy shit that goes down on this server.

Typical TMO using people as pawns for personal gain, no guildbank even need's 5-10% of that.

All that loot shoulda been rolled for and divided out amongst members, guilds should share the wealth not try and create Platlord 2.0

You guys are on some alternate universe kind of greed lol, just look what happened with IB's loot council and Kinsawt the Clown before they tried EQMac and left P99 for a while

[loramin]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to see and kill most targets join guild #2 of the moment.

Who exactly is #2 right now? Or #3 or #4 or ... really, who else is serious enough about raiding that they someday might challenge TMO? As a lowbie who hopes to try and join one such a guild someday, I'd like to know whose ass I should start kissing now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]