Bard swarm kiting that kills other players

[Mandalore93]

P99 nanny state. Now its completely understandable for the bard to be aware of common camps in a zone, but to be responsible for literally every player in the zone? This seems to be the vocal minority making a much bigger issue out of this than it needs to be. There are, what, like three zones that are heavily used by bards?

Apparently Bard kiting is important enough to warrant specific GM action but VP is a free for all? There are many zones and often much better zones than the three main bard haunts for leveling but only one VP

[wrxBRAH]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 nanny state. Now its completely understandable for the bard to be aware of common camps in a zone, but to be responsible for literally every player in the zone? This seems to be the vocal minority making a much bigger issue out of this than it needs to be. There are, what, like three zones that are heavily used by bards?

Apparently Bard kiting is important enough to warrant specific GM action but VP is a free for all? There are many zones and often much better zones than the three main bard haunts for leveling but only one VP

No one is saying Bards can't swarm kite. But if you continue to run your swarms by others camps getting them killed, you will be held responsible. Seems pretty fair to me. Would you rather they ban swarm kiting instead of finding a middle ground?

[Mandalore93]

Originally Posted by wrxBRAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is saying Bards can't swarm kite. But if you continue to run your swarms by others camps getting them killed, you will be held responsible. Seems pretty fair to me. Would you rather they ban swarm kiting instead of finding a middle ground?

I mentioned that Bards should be completely responsible for avoiding camps. And while yes, Bards should be aware of others when pulling that doesn't mean that they are omniscient players able to track every other player coming and going through the middle of a zone. Maybe all Bards should just have a macro that is "/ooc Look out for the huge fucking group of mobs, running through it could be detrimental." Because there will more than likely be somebody who runs through it, bard messes up, then person gets killed. While I don't have an issue with training being enforced, it seems that the whiners have gotten a GM to come down hard on one zone, on one class when I'm sure pull mishaps happen all the time throughout many zones.

To be honest I just view it as zone information. It's like going into Mistemoore and not expecting to see some trains, or going into TD and expecting not to see quad kiting. If you go to OT you should expect bard kiting. There are risks to playing in every zone.

And for this to take a higher priority than CSR in Veeshan's Peak just seems completely off kilter to me. But that's my own personal opinion.

Also, a bit off topic but could this issue also be a result of incorrect aggro mechanics? I would have to assume part of the mechanics don't work given that swarm charm kiting doesn't work here the way it should. (Last I checked)

[BillyCranston]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 nanny state. Now its completely understandable for the bard to be aware of common camps in a zone, but to be responsible for literally every player in the zone? This seems to be the vocal minority making a much bigger issue out of this than it needs to be. There are, what, like three zones that are heavily used by bards?

Apparently Bard kiting is important enough to warrant specific GM action but VP is a free for all? There are many zones and often much better zones than the three main bard haunts for leveling but only one VP

Do please shut up. Is this thread about raiding? Or is this thread about swarm kiting in open leveling zones? Seriously, go suck a big fat mandalorian cock please.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by BillyCranston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do please shut up. Is this thread about raiding? Or is this thread about swarm kiting in open leveling zones? Seriously, go suck a big fat mandalorian cock please.

the flame law of p99 forums: on a large enough time scale, all threads will converge to RnF content

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by BillyCranston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a big fat mandalorian cock.

Boba Fett's penis?

[Tecmos Deception]

GMs enforcing the training rules as written?

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Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if someone is just trying to cross the zone to get to the OT outpost from WW, you need to make sure your swarm doesn't go near them.

But this isn't right, is it? Current aggro mechanics would not cause the bard's pull to add a random passerby to the aggro list, would they? That person would have to be engaged with a mob that mobs in the train assist, right?

[senna]

Strong agenda there Derubael, what did the evil bard do to your family?

Jk


But seriously, sad to see the crybabies getting their own rent a cop in OT.

Shits classic, deal with it.

[Conky]

Originally Posted by senna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strong agenda there Derubael, what did the evil bard do to your family?

Jk


But seriously, sad to see the crybabies getting their own rent a cop in OT.

Shits classic, deal with it.

Getting ran over by 50 mobs and then 2min later have them all aggro you cause the bard died is not classic its being a douche. It happened to me last week I sent the bard a tell saying plz dont run your train over me cause I dont want them all when you die, he responded with only shitty bards die and Im not shitty, deal with it. Well 20 min later I run into his corpse on my way out the zone, way too many bards who just dont give a shit, my main is a bard, you dont have to be a dick to the entire zone to AoE kite.

[Porz]

Bards swarm kiting on dial up is not classic.