Server not thriving anymore

[SamwiseRed]

allowing transfers would kill the legitimacy of the server. blue to red wasnt allowed in classic because of how much easier it is to obtain shit on a non-pvp server. there will be no reason to level on red unless you are a solo class if this is implemented. its a pretty ghetto method to increase pop. boxing would be a better idea than this. IMO ofc.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Allowing blues to transfer with any gear would be one of the worst ideas ever.MAYBE allow transfers with 0 gear. Even then its a bad idea since most people would just go blue a char on blue then transfer it to red.

it would be a one time thing, not ongoing. nobody would grind to 60 on blue just to come to red. if anything it would be the other way around. most of you would tear your faces off at lvls 54 and 59 on blue.

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

allowing transfers would kill the legitimacy of the server. blue to red wasnt allowed in classic because of how much easier it is to obtain shit on a non-pvp server. there will be no reason to level on red unless you are a solo class if this is implemented. its a pretty ghetto method to increase pop. boxing would be a better idea than this. IMO ofc.

it would be a one time thing, not ongoing. and on live Red servers didnt have easy mode xp, here it does, so your argument doesnt apply.


also, nobody ever said this was happening, and i wouldnt count on it happening. im just saying how it would be done.

[Visual]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

allowing transfers would kill the legitimacy of the server. blue to red wasnt allowed in classic because of how much easier it is to obtain shit on a non-pvp server.

They actually did start allowing that, a short time after the release of LDON. They also had the legends server (blue) where you could pay a premium and accumulate the best gear with little-to-no effort. I was not a fan of seeing PoTime geared bluebies migrating over at the time but we also weren't suffering from a ~100 population like r99.

I know me and my friends would love to take the GMs up on that offer if it ever develops on emu. I have a number of inactive alts on blue that could be made use of there.

[mostbitter]

live servers didnt have exp pen on pvp either, except SZ, which had an exp bonus. Hm i am confused now.

[Jenni D]

I say let it happen

more people to have fun with

stop treating this like anything other than a video game.
Enjoy have fun pals

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Jenni D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say let it happen

more people to have fun with

stop treating this like anything other than a video game.
Enjoy have fun pals

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What does "server integrity/legitimacy" really matter, and why? I know back on live I used to think it was a big deal, because it took longer to level and we actually had to fight for our gear. But this was back when there was actually competition. As things are now, red end game seems to just be easymode for the one big guild while everyone else gets nothing beyond single group content. Let all the bluebies that want to transfer over; it would be beneficial for everyone. Their server is in a sorry state, and it's the more casual players there that are frustrated.

Most casual players would not be going to Nihilum, and if we just got enough of them to collectively form a raid force capable of competing with the bad guys then the server would be doing so much better. They have TMO/FE/BDA/FC/Div/Taken/Flawless/etc. each with higher numbers than Azrael (if the 14-22ish claims of regular Azrael turnout are true), and I bet with the transfers Azrael/FoH or some new guild could easily field the numbers needed to confront Nihilum. Blue endgame could use some thinning out at this point, too :/

If transfers were allowed, I think they would either need to be all items (including dropables), or more preferably naked. Allowing just no drop gear to transfer seems like it would encourage bored TMO/FE members to come over and join Nihilum, while discouraging the more casual players with purchased gear from making the jump. If the reasoning for this is to prevent red's economy from suffering I feel that's pretty silly, as account selling is allowed and happens just as often as other trades from what the forums tell. Making them transfer naked would discourage the hardcore Nihilum types from coming over because they love their loot, but it would also result in fewer overall transfers. More players is a good thing, but more Nihilum members would hurt the server. Pretty delicate situation :P

[Supreme]

The dead/defeated/deleted are going to cry about "exploiting dragons" as long as EQ Emu exists.

The truth is that PVP in EQ sucks. It was never by design intended to be the "main course" of Everquest but instead a "spice". And there are some people that just cannot stomach the flavor.

Red99 needs to stay the way it is for the long term. People will come to know and expect how things are and in the long run it will help the "business" of Red99 to grow.

If we second guess the direction and what we can do to "improve business" of Red99 the changes can often chase away your dedicated core of players.

[Grumpurt the Terrible]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

expect how things are and in the long run it will help the "business" of Red99 to grow.

If we second guess the direction and what we can do to "improve business" of Red99 the changes can often chase away your dedicated core of players.

Grumper know bizness, Grumper good sale man. Yu need Grumper?

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[balls_on_chin]

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Grumper know bizness, Grumper good sale man. Yu need Grumper?

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lol, icwudt

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The dead/defeated/deleted are going to cry about "exploiting dragons" as long as EQ Emu exists.

The truth is that PVP in EQ sucks. It was never by design intended to be the "main course" of Everquest but instead a "spice". And there are some people that just cannot stomach the flavor.

Red99 needs to stay the way it is for the long term. People will come to know and expect how things are and in the long run it will help the "business" of Red99 to grow.

If we second guess the direction and what we can do to "improve business" of Red99 the changes can often chase away your dedicated core of players.

Thing is, itll never grow more than a bit. Because theres only a small amount of "basement dwellers" that find the server setup fun, its not rocket science.

EQ1 just isnt deep and fun enough on its own to warrant all that grind just to be able to have fun in pvp.

Even eve online, which is considered one of the harshest death penalties for dying in MMOs, isnt as harsh as Red99 is. But Eve online has a huge amount of things to do compared to what you can do in EQ1.

The death penalty in EVE can be compared to the ruleset of Rallos. You get to decide what kind of penalty you are willing to risk. Your ship and components is the "gear" you wear.

The only endgame that EQpvp (or at any level, actually) has, is fighting over shit. And the ruleset makes sure that its not going to happen that often.

These people are blue to the bone. Theres no way in hell i would have played EQ back in the day if there wasnt a PVP server. Blablabla pvp is just a little spice. No, its the whole fucking game to players like me. The PVE is the side dish. What theyre really saying is that they dont like EQ pvp. So why the fuck did you decide to play on this server? Oh yeah so you could sit on good spawns with your huge fucking zerg guild to PVE 24/7 and not have to call camps on blue.

Im guessing the reason why we have nihilums still pushing for the status quo is because it benefits them. They dont want people contesting their raids in pvp. They want to be able to make people forfeit just by the size of their roster.

Sounds like a bundle of fun to me