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Old 02-09-2025, 08:05 PM
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Nor would tooting your own horn about the "successes" of your *very* serious investigation provide the public a substantively correct understanding of the fiscal situation therein.
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:05 PM
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The agency has to pay someone for maintaining its records and files.

It wouldn't make much sense to save 1 cent by incurring a greater cost to that system and vendor contracts.

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Thanks for indulging my hypothetical in the literal. Still though, you haven't told me why saving potentially millions of wasted taxpayer dollars is bad.
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:17 PM
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This is the actual "change" that all the platitudes for the last 30 years promised us and never delivered.
Yep 100%

the real problem is that it's Donald Trump making the changes that they all promised and now they are revealed to be exactly the indecisive feckless swamp bureaucrats that Americans voted against in 2024

Everyone wanted a thorough audit of the US Gov't, they're just mad that it's Trump doing it and that it's got the support of the majority of americans

The Dems still don't understand that they have no political platform other then resist trump, they don't understand that most of their own voters think the fed gov is corrupted to it's core, they don't understand that this can only be a good thing for the USA

if the Dems were smart politicians, they would be getting ahead of DOGE, they would be distancing themselves from the swamp bureaucrats that they can throw under the bus, they would be working to control the blame narrative, they would be pretending to support cleaning up the TRILLIONS that the US collects in taxes each year, they would understand that this audit is playing brilliantly in political optics and they would be trying to use it to make themselves look good

but they are not smart politicians, so all you hear is orange man bad

personally, I hope they never wise up
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:19 PM
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Idiot Democrats are threatening Government Shutdown over the DOGE cuts
What a silly statement. What party is in control of the house, senate and presidency?

Since DOGE no longer has control of the Treasury I would have just said ignore everyone and just print the money.

But since DOGE doesn't currently have control of the Treasury why don't you whine about the insanity and need to impeach a judge who rules against Elon.

You know Elon who was being investigated by USAID, Department of Defense, Department of Education, U.S. Treasury, Department of Homeland Security, General Services Administration, Office of Personnel Management, and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Elon who feels vengeful towards some of these agencies.

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Thanks for indulging my hypothetical in the literal. Still though, you haven't told me why saving potentially millions of wasted taxpayer dollars is bad.
Ah well my Internet crashed and I'm pretty sure it's the Iranians. Let's do this again soon.
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:22 PM
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Trexller honest question since you work with the water company in (Not that area) does any of this affect you? Note I said not that area because I don't want to talk about the state you are working in.

Trump, Musk move to oust EPA staff in the Great Lakes region, including dozens responsible for protecting drinking water for 30 million in US and Canada

Or not really has nothing to do with your job or your area?
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:44 PM
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Trexller honest question since you work with the water company in (Not that area) does any of this affect you? Note I said not that area because I don't want to talk about the state you are working in.

Trump, Musk move to oust EPA staff in the Great Lakes region, including dozens responsible for protecting drinking water for 30 million in US and Canada

Or not really has nothing to do with your job or your area?
I doubt it will have much impact on anything. As long as you don't have industrial waste flowing directly into a public water source nobody is actually gonna do anything. If some agency wanted to spend it's resources to investigate why there are chemicals or heavy metals in the water they can but it would take months or years and by the time they figure out the source, often times whatever discharge into the water isn't occuring anymore so you rarely get a smoking gun of a chemical company laughing as they dump in the environment, they'll go after things like farm fertilizer runoff because you can just look at a map and know it's probably happening there

utilities like water and power operate under this understanding that, "You cannot fuck this up" like it goes beyond any kind of politics or economics, it's not something that politicians are really gonna screw around with. If one day we decided we were gonna shut off valves or pull a joker and dump chemicals into the water, the US Army would come kick us out and start doing our jobs. There are actual plans for that.

The EPA doesn't get in our way, central PA is also blessed with a literal fuck load of mountain springs that spout clean water, our water doesn't flow from hundreds of miles away like other places

having said that ill take every opportunity to inform people that it's alot more likely that there is small amounts of hazardous materials in your tap water and if you care about your home drinking water you'd use reverse osmosis or a filter system like the Zero brand.

every town and city has pipes that were installed wrong, or installed 100 years ago, or cracked because the ground shifted, or are literally made of lead, or lead solder was used, or have infectious bacteria, or whatever other reason for contamination

the tap water is just barely safe enough to call drinking water, and no agency let alone the EPA can change that
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Old 02-09-2025, 08:48 PM
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But since DOGE doesn't currently have control of the Treasury why don't you whine about the insanity and need to impeach a judge who rules against Elon.
Following Varad and them on X, they said something like it wasn't even that judge's case and the judiciary isn't allowed to proscribe actions that are the core/legitimate powers of executive agencies. I think.
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Old 02-09-2025, 09:13 PM
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What a silly statement. What party is in control of the house, senate and presidency?

Since DOGE no longer has control of the Treasury I would have just said ignore everyone and just print the money.

But since DOGE doesn't currently have control of the Treasury why don't you whine about the insanity and need to impeach a judge who rules against Elon.

You know Elon who was being investigated by USAID, Department of Defense, Department of Education, U.S. Treasury, Department of Homeland Security, General Services Administration, Office of Personnel Management, and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Elon who feels vengeful towards some of these agencies.

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics...t/?form=MG0AV3

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon...33&form=MG0AV3

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy...65?form=MG0AV3
how about we hang the judge...
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Old 02-09-2025, 10:50 PM
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Seahawks Broncos style beatdown
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