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Old 09-12-2021, 07:03 PM
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What exactly is the confusion? Another failed gotcha.

I'm saying countries that are top-down fully socialst never work, all you have to do is open a history book.

There can be social programs, depending on the specific circumstances of the particular nation you're talking about.

We never had a war with the soviet union, it crumbled because it tried to go full socialist/communist. When you demand that all your productive farmers give over their labor for nothing, you lose them. Then millions of people starve to death.

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Old 09-12-2021, 07:07 PM
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What exactly is the confusion? Another failed gotcha.

I'm saying countries that are top-down fully socialst never work, all you have to do is open a history book.

There can be social programs, depending on the specific circumstances of the particular nation you're talking about.

We never had a war with the soviet union, it crumbled because it tried to go full socialist/communist. When you demand that all your productive farmers give over their labor for nothing, you lose them. Then millions of people starve to death.

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What's the difference between Social Democracy and Post Marxism?
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Old 09-12-2021, 07:11 PM
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What's the difference between Social Democracy and Post Marxism?
I don't know, elaborate the question. That could mean a million different things.
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Old 09-12-2021, 07:13 PM
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Us asgardians are going to enslave you all.
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Old 09-12-2021, 07:16 PM
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I don't know, elaborate the question. That could mean a million different things.
You should find out and tell me, though they are very specific things. It would improve us both! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-12-2021, 07:18 PM
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We can’t even define racism or boys and girls or life or what Black Lives Matter means, and you want us to define social democracy and Marxism?

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Old 09-12-2021, 08:12 PM
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This is so retarded. We "have socialism" in our government too. They are called social programs, like welfare and unemployment. I support these things.

That is a very different idea than a country solely founded and operated by socialist ideas. The ones who do that have always failed.

There's a reason why when bernie sanders tried to cite Denmark as an example of successful socialism, they said "Uhh fuck you, we are not socialist we are capitalist".

Venezuela has a massive oil resource, yet they are starving to death. That should be your first clue.
You said it fails, every time, hundreds of millions dead. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS DEAD.

Without the soviet union, which was a dictatorship ran by ONE person. The court system was ONE person in Stalin. Signing 9000 death orders in a night was his record. Yeah, that sounds like like a communistic dictatorship. I can sit there and call this face the sky green ALLL day but that doesnt make it green. Like stalin and hitler were not socialists, call em whatever you want, but if your government amounts to one persons whims, thats not socialism.


You're far too stupid to understand any of this.
Just showed you 15 countries with socialist policies, now its "oh communism is bad" they are not interchangeable.

You know what other country has massive resources and one in five kids are going hungry?

Facts about poverty and hunger in America
Even in the world’s greatest food-producing nation, children and adults face poverty and hunger in every county across America.

34 million people lived in poverty in America. For a family of four, that means earning just $25,000 per year.
In 2020, more than 38 million people faced hunger in the United States, including more than 12 million children.
A household that is food insecure has limited or uncertain access to enough food to support a healthy life.
Children are more likely to face food insecurity than any other group in the United States.

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Old 09-12-2021, 08:45 PM
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Socialism will never work in America, we are far to diverse on all markers. It works in small monoculture societies. Spin again face mask guy.
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Old 09-12-2021, 08:49 PM
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Socialism will only work when there are just enough of us left to hold this house of cards that is left of this planet together after capitalism finishes.
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Old 09-12-2021, 09:05 PM
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Wait wait, it went from NEVER working and resulting in hundreds of millions to deaths to "well it only works in small places"

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