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Old 07-21-2023, 05:12 PM
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Ya my dad talks about this. Supposedly easy to mitigate by just regularly giving blood, getting blood tested, or bloodletting though

My dad picks the donating blood route. So the question would be was Joe doing none of those?
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Old 07-21-2023, 06:04 PM
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Ya my dad talks about this. Supposedly easy to mitigate by just regularly giving blood, getting blood tested, or bloodletting though

My dad picks the donating blood route. So the question would be was Joe doing none of those?
Joe looks juiced to the gills in those pictures, could that be related to his premature death? Honest question I don't really know, I've just always heard steroids destroy your body.

I also can't imagine having that much muscle mass VS so little body fat percentage. Do you like die if you miss a meal?
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Old 07-21-2023, 06:38 PM
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Joe looks juiced to the gills in those pictures, could that be related to his premature death? Honest question I don't really know, I've just always heard steroids destroy your body.

I also can't imagine having that much muscle mass VS so little body fat percentage. Do you like die if you miss a meal?
Yeah he was always walking around at like 6% bodyfat

You can be that big just with TRT. Although Joe had openly talked about doing other steroids in the past, most likely he was just on TRT in the few years before his death, as he was claiming. He was a pretty honest guy, one of the nicest and most honest in the fitness community

Reiwa was correct though that probably the most common negative side effect of TRT is an increase in red blood cells, creating “thick” blood that doesn’t move through the arteries as well, possibly. The solution is just to let some of the blood out regularly (a few times a year). That pretty much completely fixes that side effect

TRT is so popular because it’s side effects are considered low and easy to manage
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Old 07-21-2023, 04:42 PM
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I hope it didn’t kill my boy Joesthetics

He died of an arterial aneurism, I had incorrectly mentioned it as brain aneurism on the other thread

I don’t know if this is a known side effect of the vaxx but I actually don’t think so. But why get 4 at once? That fact IS confirmed true, by people that were there. He did get 4 at once and supposedly had some blood anomalies after

Supposedly his aunt died of the same kind of aneurism so probably just genetic
You're more likely to get blood vessel pathology from COVID than the vaccine for COVID, anyway. The virus (and your immune response to it) attacks the endothelium of your blood vessels in some people. Particularly vulnerable are the small vessels of the brain. I worked in a nursing home during the initial waves back in 20'/21' and some of my patients had a presentation similar to vascular dementia post-COVID.
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Old 07-21-2023, 05:57 PM
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You're more likely to get blood vessel pathology from COVID than the vaccine for COVID, anyway. The virus (and your immune response to it) attacks the endothelium of your blood vessels in some people. Particularly vulnerable are the small vessels of the brain. I worked in a nursing home during the initial waves back in 20'/21' and some of my patients had a presentation similar to vascular dementia post-COVID.
No this is false. *Some* people are more likely, others (like young males between the ages of 16 and 24) are more likely to have blood vessel pathology from the vaccines (specifically the 2nd dose of moderna) than from covid itself. Many european nations have banned it's use in that age range for this reason. It is fundamentally irresponsible to talk about the risks of covid *or* the risks of the covid vaccines without specifying which set of people you're talking about. All of these studies have extremely limited data sets because covid itself and the vaccines to prevent it haven't been around very long, so any conclusions should be taken with a big grain of salt.

To say nothing of the still unknown long-term side effects of all the covid vaccines. You can't claim they are safe in the long term (nor any other drug) until they have existed in the long term. Currently they are only about two years old.
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Old 07-21-2023, 06:38 PM
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No this is false.
If you say so lol

We all have a right to choose what we think is best for us, I suppose.
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Old 07-21-2023, 07:48 PM
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If you say so lol

We all have a right to choose what we think is best for us, I suppose.
If I say so what? I said that when you're considering covid risk OR covid vaccine risk, you have to consider who you're talking about.

A healthy 20 year old does not need the covid vaccine. Yes it *might* help them not get symptomatic covid, but also getting symptomatic covid is extremely unlikely to harm them in the first place. Taking the vax is just adding another layer of uncertainty to their prognosis.

On the other hand, an 80 year old overweight diabetic absolutely should get a covid vax. The data is crystal clear on this now. The united states is basically the only country that doesn't stratify the covid vax by age or co-morbidity, which is moronic.
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Old 07-21-2023, 06:49 PM
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I’ve actually shot more test in a week than him, one time I did 1000mg/week for 2 weeks. Blew up and deflated about a week after I stopped. I was like this doesn’t make sense, muscle can’t atrophy that fast. But it was actually water in the muscle making it look bigger, which essentially evaporated once I stopped. Test will make you grow muscle fast, but the initial spike is just water weight

But Joe has done HGH and insulin too he said. I tried oral hgh but it increases grellin (hunger hormone) too much, was miserable starving all day. And I can’t afford the good HGH, the peptide you shoot is like $200/shot

Insulin is EXTREMELY dangerous to shoot when not diabetic, I would never fuck with that

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But Joe has done HGH and insulin too he said. I tried oral hgh but it increases grellin (hunger hormone) too much, was miserable starving all day. And I can’t afford the good HGH, the peptide you shoot is like $200/shot
Stay away from that shit, gives you cardiomegaly and ventricular hypertrophy (your heart becomes less effective, for life)
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Old 07-21-2023, 07:06 PM
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Stay away from that shit, gives you cardiomegaly and ventricular hypertrophy (your heart becomes less effective, for life)
You talkin about HGH? Most TRT clinics will prescribe it, my dad's TRT doc says at a low and infrequent dose it's pretty safe

At a high dose, however, it causes everything to grow, I've heard. Well, organs, certain kinds of tissue (like some bone, such as the temples near the skull, causing a distorted face), and organs inside the body. The organs growing inside the body and pushing out the abdominal muscles is what creates what's called the "GH Gut" turtle-shell looking thing that bodybuilders get

Liver King fake natty is a great example of this, he was shooting like $10,000 of HGH/month he said (well he tried to hide it, but was exposed)

It also increases the size of the heart, which is dangerous ya, you mentioned that
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