Are we allowed to like AI art?

[Trexller]

nah unlikely that any of that underground bs is true

but for sure they didn't drag 80 ton blocks 100s of miles across mountains or stack them with ridiculous geometric precision

[Duik]

I agree trex. There is more to our written history than what is currently popular canon.

I dont think its Altantis or anything. Just that we are not the apex of human achievement.

We (currently) see our ability to change our environment as progress, regardless of the "cost". Costs of environmental and social damage are quite high in our dog eat dog, captitalist system as we have it now.

Maybe the systems in place thousands of years ago left less of a footprint because they used natural materials to build thereby leaving less footprint to be found by archaelogists. Like an environmentally conscience hiker taking only photos and leaving only footprints.

There is more than one way to achieve advancement. We have just been channeled toward the ones and zeros method.
Now i dont know what it was, but i can suspend my disbelief enough to know in a world as complex as earth (whether by divine design or evolution) maybe we dont have all the answers or if those answers are in fact the best answers.

Many ancient civilizations tried to leave nature alone. Nature based ones at least.

I dont have the answer, but I also know we currently dont.

Just look around to see the proof of that.

[Trexller]

right it's not just the pyramids there are ridiculous stoneworks all over the world that can't be easily explained

I think on one level or another, every human can sense that they are being lied to. that the world isn't real. That feeling of, "I don't know what the truth is, but I do know that it's not what you're telling me"

Humans are so weird when you think about it. We're the only species on earth that can't survive in it's environment. If you leave an adult human pretty much anywhere on earth without tools they will just die. Our newborns can't move, are defenseless, and have to be fed directly into their mouths in order to survive. We're the only species that leaves our environment worse off for our presence. We're the only species that destroys and kills for fun.

that's not any new information but after some deep thinking you can only surmise that the weird thing around here is us, we're not part of whatever the earth is. we don't live with the earth we live in spite of it. I don't wanna sound like a hippy but the earthlovers aren't wrong with their take on it.

This modern urban sprawl that we traverse with vehicles is just weird to me. It doesn't feel real. Like this is all some ridiculous theater that we perpetrate with our lives. The bears and the birds and the bees are just looking at us like, wtf is wrong with those animals, everything they need for life is here but they have to smelt steel and string wires.

If evolution is a thing then I imagine this level of sentience is a mistake. It's not a benefit, like even our most basic technology was invented to solve a problem that doesn't need to exist. we don't need clothes if we live in a tropical environment, we don't need grocery stores if we live where food grows on trees.

The majority of all the work that we do is just to resist an environment that is incondusive to life but we're too stubborn to realize it.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

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My issue is that I’ve been spoiled by all the health and tech luxury and now see a lot of the human existence as a nuisance

Like when I’m having to pee for the 8th time in a day because of how much water I tend to drink, I wonder how much of my dwindling precious time remaining I’m devoting to staring at a shit-stained toilet bowl of some public place. And when I think pissing and shitting is annoying I wonder if we will ever find a way to not have to deal with it anymore. Cords when they get tangled or unplugged I think how long until we don’t have to deal with these anymore

Things like that. Spoiled, waiting for minor nuisances to be SCIENCE’ed away

[Trexller]

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My issue is that I’ve been spoiled by all the health and tech luxury and now see a lot of the human existence as a nuisance

we already built the world the way that we did so we're sort of stuck with it now

everyone gets to enjoy eating meat without having to witness or experience killing and death, and they will kill or die to keep that system in place

[atomicpaul]

have you ever processed any animals you killed or hunted? i watched a dude turn a deer his buddy had shot into sausage when i was a teenager, i did eat some of the sausage.

my county here in georgia outputs incredible amounts of poultry. almost all of those jobs are worked by immigrants, many of whom might be described as 'illegal' immigrants. i can't imagine they'll find a lot of american laborers to fill those roles even for like $20-$25 per hour like most of them pay around here, so i expect the price of chicken to rise eventually, like everything else.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

have you ever processed any animals you killed or hunted?

yeah chicken fish deer

dressing an animal a few times a week would just be like cracking open a new box of cereal, your brain recognizes it as "this is what I gotta do to eat" the sights and smells of butchering only gross people out because they have associated it with horror films and cruelty

we've been taught that this is something to avoid, something bad that we don't want in our lives

saw this video of an african village once who had a celebration around killing live goats and butchering them in front of everyone, yeah they are all like 50 IQ but you could tell they were happy because they knew a good meal was coming

totally different reaction to the blood gore. it was a Vice doc film about african moonshiners and drug addicts

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by atomicpaul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so i expect the price of chicken to rise eventually, like everything else.

probably not by much more than any other market shock event that has happened lately there are so many illegal immigrants that it's impossible to actually fix. they would have to deport over 10,000 a day to get it done in trumps first term and they barely get 300, and they prioritize illegals with a criminal record

domestic meat is... domestic so it's more insulated than say chinese pork or australian beef

so reshore it, let the amish go back to selling meats the way they used to, and encourage them to expand their operations we could have entire towns of amish people who work to process thousands of cows a week but they aren't allowed to do it because government knows best

It's so hard to be a right-leaning environmentally concerned person because when you look into green legislation you realize this has nothing to do with environmentalism and it's entirely about control. We have changed nothing in the last 40 years of green consciousness, all we did was move the pollution from The West to china, india and SE asia, who are all polluting 100x worse then we ever were and they are doing it at scales we could not imagine.

Then a lefty politician goes on TV and tells me that I have to install LED light bulbs and buy less beef because of cow farts so please excuse me when I don't take anything they say seriously.

This is a 26 story pork slaughterhouse in china, 650,000 pigs

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[shovelquest]

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This is a 26 story pork slaughterhouse in china, 650,000 pigs

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Pork slaughter house, or communist solution to housing.

It's impossibru to tell.

[Trexller]

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Pork slaughter house, or communist solution to housing.

It's impossibru to tell.

to the CCP there probably isn't a difference