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Old 11-19-2012, 10:35 PM
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but i need it
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:37 PM
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but i need it
if you roll need on something you have won 10 times and someone else in the group actually needs for their character you are a fag sir. simple as that. im sorry you have that problem but some people are addicted to being loot whores obviously.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:09 PM
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Upon further review, I'm upgrading this to an 8/10 troll thread.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:12 AM
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im not saying random numbers is not fair you are just a fucking idiot trying to take what im saying out of context to further the point that 1 person in a group winning everything is fair. people who get pushed to the back of the que do in case of your group being there for hours if a big portion of your group is replaced the cycle starts over. the fact that you are trying to make me out to be a loot whore is retarded when I'm the one making the point that everyone should have a greater chance of getting greed loot compared to potentially 1 person getting all the greed loot. If i were a loot whore i wouldnt have made this point about greed all. personally i feel better to sit out on the next greed roll if i have won something because im not a loot whore and i think the rest of my group deserves loot as well.
So i join your group, we're in KC, a few minutes later t-staff drops. I was in the group and helped kill the mob, yet you think i should not be able to roll on it because i recently joined, and thats completely fair.

Also, no im not making the point that one person winning every item in the group is fair, im making the point that you can't get any more fair than a system using random number generation. If every time this system was used only one person got loot then it wouldn't be random, hence not fair.

Im going to stop responding to you after this, i just wanted to point out how incredibly stupid that is.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:28 AM
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silly mishami...so sad. i will pray for your brain to heal.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:30 AM
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So i join your group, we're in KC, a few minutes later t-staff drops. I was in the group and helped kill the mob, yet you think i should not be able to roll on it because i recently joined, and thats completely fair. Im going to stop responding to you after this, i just wanted to point out how incredibly stupid that is.

Also, no im not making the point that one person winning every item in the group is fair, im making the point that you can't get any more fair than a system using random number generation. If every time this system was used only one person got loot then it wouldn't be random, hence not fair.

Im going to stop responding to you after this, i just wanted to point out how incredibly stupid that is.
So you think its fair to join a group that has been killing the cycle to make a tstaff drop for hours and win it? I mean if you need it yeah i can understand that but i dont really see how its fair considering you did shit to help the item drop. like i said before the new member getting pushed to the back of the cycle only happens when groups replace 1 member after being formed for a long amount of time only to make it fair for the case i just mentioned. please understand the random number genertation is a tool in eq its not there to determine how people set their loot rules. thats a very dumb point to make. The only reason i mentioned new members getting pushed to the back of the cycle after groups had been formed for 2+ hours is because its not fair to the people who have been there that long havent won anything and someone enters the group and wins a tstaff as "your example" is not fair. this was all so easy to understand in live people and a very practiced loot method. Are all of the people in favor of greed saying they just had it wrong in live? I mean you still have no point even if one person doesnt get loot in a group thats still better than potentially 3 or 4 members not getting any loot but keep telling me im wrong maybe it will happen if you keep saying it..
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:44 AM
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Mishami if i ever group with u im gonna roll three times and if you have a problem with it im gunna ninja the drops
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:41 AM
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I remember when LIVE had first fabled event, there was 12 people long line in Guk for Fabled SSOY, and people were getting their drop in order of arrival - there was no rolling. Of course fabled mob was spawning like every 20 min....

Now line for fabled FBSS was 47 persons long. I gave up after 5 hours [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:28 AM
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silly mishami...so sad. i will pray for your brain to heal.
My brain? what about yours? why dont you make a valid point instead of saying random bullshit? Everyone can go through the past post and see everyone who has been in favor of greed all has just been talking a bunch of bullshit. not a valid point of why greed all is more fair for the group. People in favor of greed all obviously got mad that im messing with the consensus of fair loot even went on to say NBG is bs...need i say more about greed all being greedy? all anyone keep saying is un related crap that they take out of context. Not to mention people in favor of greed all saying things that just shows they are greedy people without even discussing the subject. nbg is bs ect. Im just explaining to people that this is how people on live did their loot system and everyone gets huffy puffy because i actually put foward a fair way to devide up loot. people in favor of greed all are pathetic and it should be obvious reading over their comments. Ninja looting happens and people spread the word about people who do that so they dont have to experience it again and it becomes something frowned upon. Same thing with people rolling need when they dont need it but hey if you cant tell that someone doesnt need it you need some help...like casters rolling on fbss? twinks rolling on items they already have? inspect or /who and it should be pretty clear and if they still want to roll need on it they are just pathetic people who should be listed as such. thats how it went on live which is actually better because people like that get profiled and shown for the people they actually are. Its better in life to give people the option to make a bad choice so their principles shine through. if not they will just end up fucking you over one day when you least expect it.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:04 AM
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Think about it this way if you're still having trouble... For each of the 6 people in the group, each one will have as many groups where they win 3 items and the rest win nothing. So, it all evens out.
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