Egg-shaped pumice, chipped bone rod.

[Scribbles]

also silikt10 was a goog ranger and an eh wizard

[Envious]

Eh... maybe a good jousting rogue? Lol

Bard is kind of rough.

Enchanter.

Most classes are: assist key, melee on / pet attack + spam nuke.

I think jousting rogue, bard, and enchanter would be the only real skill classes.

[Chronoburn]

I was just curious because I played rogue/bard on live and I want an ez mode class this time around! Hope my selection of SK or shaman will pan out.

[Sarkov]

You probably notice the difference between a good player and an average one most for Bard and Cleric, but all classes have some pretty substantial skill checks. General stuff that applies to being a good pvper of any class (buff slots/clickies, dispels/cures, resist gear, crimson pots, situational awareness, ability to follow/assist, etc), and a lot of class specific stuff.

Pet control in particular stands out as an area where average players are outclassed by good ones, both keeping your own pet free of cc and controlling other players' pets.

Jousting (really just minimizing the amount you get hit vs. the amount you hit them) is another obvious one applicable to any melee, as is disc usage once Kunark rolls around.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by Sarkov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You probably notice the difference between a good player and an average one most for Bard and Cleric, but all classes have some pretty substantial skill checks. General stuff that applies to being a good pvper of any class (buff slots/clickies, dispels/cures, resist gear, crimson pots, situational awareness, ability to follow/assist, etc), and a lot of class specific stuff.

Pet control in particular stands out as an area where average players are outclassed by good ones, both keeping your own pet free of cc and controlling other players' pets.

Jousting (really just minimizing the amount you get hit vs. the amount you hit them) is another obvious one applicable to any melee, as is disc usage once Kunark rolls around.

Was about to type out something similar, but may as well just quote and be lazy!

But yeah, it's extremely obvious when a bard is terrible, and in many situations pet classes as well. Bad bards (see dojii) get owned very early on in any group encounter or panic when they're targeted and run off, leaving the rest of their group to get mowed down without selos. Bad mages don't stack their pets buffs and remove CC properly, getting terribly owned (see, envious).

[lethdar]

chronarrrrrr

[Chronoburn]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

chronarrrrrr

Beast Bard.

[Scribbles]

ranger aka pumicebot

[Xantille]

As someone whose been the main assist during PDM mass pvp on TZ, and emperor of all iterations of VZTZ, I can safely say you do not want egg shaped pumice in the game, regardless of how classic it is. Unless you want melees to run high end mass PVP more than they already do, this is not a good idea. People will die instantly.

At least with golem wands, the camp itself is a bottleneck that encourages PVP, and they are rare as shit. Insta pumice buyable off vendors is not remotely the same.

PS how did Envious/Lachius get circumcised? Someone punched his sister in the jaw.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Xantille

As someone whose been the main assist during PDM mass pvp on TZ, and emperor of all iterations of VZTZ, I can safely say you do not want egg shaped pumice in the game, regardless of how classic it is. Unless you want melees to run high end mass PVP more than they already do, this is not a good idea. People will die instantly.

At least with golem wands, the camp itself is a bottleneck that encourages PVP, and they are rare as shit. Insta pumice buyable off vendors is not remotely the same.

PS how did Envious/Lachius get circumcised? Someone punched his sister in the jaw.

The warrior that is behind the monks in tank order has spoken. Don't mind he was lower than MoZ in classic EQ.

As for my sister, hard to circumcise with only gums.