Discussion: Zone Plugging

[Nirgon]

Group zones in, all crash. Players waiting on other side get free kills. Sounds smart to me right.

[pojab]

i think he makes a good point in that /anon should be removed.

[hotstud]

Originally Posted by pojab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think he makes a good point in that /anon should be removed.

Honestly I would support this too. Anything that prevents zones from being a blind spot for gankers to hide behind. I'm actually kind of surprised all you leet PvPers here don't see the problem with punishing zone plugging while still leaving the obvious disadvantages that come from zoning into an area without being able to know whats ahead.

So right now zones are essentially a safe spot. You can zone dance or even zone plug.

Punishing zone plugging will just change zones from being safe spots into being death traps. It's not going to fix anything about zones being annoying it will just make them 10x more annoying.

This change will only ensure that on the issue of zones people are going to die a lot more. Not because they ran away but because zones will be the new "I win" button as you get to engage first and no one can zone away after you've nuked the shit out of them before they could even see what was happening.

So, that's fine.. everyone should die more, right? It's MUCH more frustrating to the killer when a victim zones away and pulls plug than it is to a victim who zones into a gank squad and now has no possible exit, right?

Well if the server is using that mentality why don't you add full corpse loot and max level range for attack, remove anonymous, no safety for level 1s, etc?

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps a /ready command that both players need to type before engaging in PvP?

Pretty fucking retarded Null.. you guys are pandering to blue players with every rule then I point out that punishing zone plugging is too hardcore and will just turn the server and zones into a non-stop gank death festival and you try to pretend like I'm not hardcore enough. Hey bro, let me know when you're gonna stop putting in all the blue rules and I'll stop complaining about this new zone ganking bonus you're trying to add.

How about instead of a /ready command you not change a classic mechanic to reward people who camp on the other side of zone lines to take advantage of people being in game before they can even play? You're just SOOOO hardcore Null, you want so much PvP you're happy to have it happen when people aren't even in control of their character because of the zone mechanic and then instead of being able to safely get away by zoning back they should be popped out LD on the other side to guarantee a kill because they DARED CROSS A ZONE LINE.. FUCKING NEWBS, LLOLOLOLOL

Hows that full corpse loot and max level range coming along? I can't wait.

[lethdar]

Originally Posted by hotstud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly I would support this too. Anything that prevents zones from being a blind spot for gankers to hide behind. I'm actually kind of surprised all you leet PvPers here don't see the problem with punishing zone plugging while still leaving the obvious disadvantages that come from zoning into an area without being able to know whats ahead.

So right now zones are essentially a safe spot. You can zone dance or even zone plug.

Punishing zone plugging will just change zones from being safe spots into being death traps. It's not going to fix anything about zones being annoying it will just make them 10x more annoying.

This change will only ensure that on the issue of zones people are going to die a lot more. Not because they ran away but because zones will be the new "I win" button as you get to engage first and no one can zone away after you've nuked the shit out of them before they could even see what was happening.

So, that's fine.. everyone should die more, right? It's MUCH more frustrating to the killer when a victim zones away and pulls plug than it is to a victim who zones into a gank squad and now has no possible exit, right?

Well if the server is using that mentality why don't you add full corpse loot and max level range for attack, remove anonymous, no safety for level 1s, etc?



Pretty fucking retarded Null.. you guys are pandering to blue players with every rule then I point out that punishing zone plugging is too hardcore and will just turn the server and zones into a non-stop gank death festival and you try to pretend like I'm not hardcore enough. Hey bro, let me know when you're gonna stop putting in all the blue rules and I'll stop complaining about this new zone ganking bonus you're trying to add.

How about instead of a /ready command you not change a classic mechanic to reward people who camp on the other side of zone lines to take advantage of people being in game before they can even play? You're just SOOOO hardcore Null, you want so much PvP you're happy to have it happen when people aren't even in control of their character because of the zone mechanic and then instead of being able to safely get away by zoning back they should be popped out LD on the other side to guarantee a kill because they DARED CROSS A ZONE LINE.. FUCKING NEWBS, LLOLOLOLOL

Hows that full corpse loot and max level range coming along? I can't wait.

Whoa, this guy is mad.

[hotstud]

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoa, this guy is mad.

So mad brew. Everything I write sounds mad. It's my own personal skill. In reality I'm just trying to make it clear that enabling a zone plugging punishment is a complete game changer and from a game development standpoint there are multiple factors that need to be considered before such a decision is made.

Devs want to play amateur game developer but they're obviously not very good at it if issues like this are ignored and answered with, "Maybe we should have a /ready command." Yeah, thanks.. sticky a post asking for discussion on this mechanic then insult me for actually pointing something out.

What can I say though, I'm the guy who got banned for 5 months for saying something Nilbog said was bullshit. I've come to understand that this server is more summed up like, "We do whatever the fuck we want. Your opinion is meaningless. We only ask for it so we can tell you to STFU."

[Dontmez_Mebro]

Sounds like a good idea.

[Arillious]

Honestly, we need to leave this issue alone. Pulling the plug is pretty classic and making someone pull the plug is kinda like making someone tap out in a MMA fight. It's almost more satisfcation then actually knocking them out/killing them.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Arillious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly, we need to leave this issue alone. Pulling the plug is pretty classic and making someone pull the plug is kinda like making someone tap out in a MMA fight. It's almost more satisfcation then actually knocking them out/killing them.

[Vile]

Zone plugging is lame. Might not be the most important issue, but should be addressed eventually.

[gloinz]

zone plugging is a classic mechanic that is fine leave it alone