Nice! How's VP?

[Pheer]

wife? i thought you said we were moving to new york to be together ektar

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what the hell? i said exactly what yendor did except you want to keep ignoring me.

it's cool, bro.

You were too vague to make sense of whose side you were on, you waffling turncoat.

[Ektar]

ok look idk where you come from but when I say "be together" I, in no way, imply monogamy.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok look idk where you come from but when I say "be together" I, in no way, imply monogamy.

its because im a sarnak isnt it


After your thread i knew you had a problem with sarnaks, but I thought with our history together you could overlook it. Clearly I was mistaken.

[Harrison]

Us Fire Giants stick together, bro.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were too vague to make sense of whose side you were on, you waffling turncoat.

nono, i defended you. you just hate me.

no turncoat, i still think you're an asshole at times and i don't have to hide it and nor am i switching sides, but this was quite clearly a case of themz got you all wrong. in fact their faces should be painted red and you should take a picture of yourself facepalming.

[Anger]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL TR... come on here. The issue is clearly that you are making things tougher on the devs/guides to promote server health/growth, yet your spin/misdirection is merely "Stop policing our guild web page!!"?

As it was pointed out above, Uthgaard didn't go there randomly to check things out. The link was posted for everyone to see, and because you guys can't control your irritating need to perpetuate the appearance of favoritism or "having an in", now the staff has to deal with the inevitable questions and accusations from others on the server.

In fact, you're only making it tougher on yourselves, as it is going to be more difficult for the guides/GMs to decide on anything in your favor without furthering the perception of favoritism on the server. As the old saying goes... perception is 90% of reality. Or something like that. Throw some high percentage in there.

Just off the top of my head, you've got Xzerion as a dev. He doesn't even try to hide it. Shit, at least make a forum dev name different than your play name and at least be subtle about it.

Then, playing off that fact, you proudly announced on your guild recruitment thread that players with GM/guide/dev accounts are preferred... although a joke, it's essentially flaunting the fact you've got Xzerion in your guild. Doesn't really do wonders for perceptions about the server, possible inside info, etc.

Some sketchiness around a mob being added in Permafrost by Xzerion right after a rival guild staged there to camp/kill Vox. The timing was just very suspect on that zone modification. At least wait a few weeks to add the mob there, you know?

Some more sketchiness around a rival guild beating you to Vox by poopsocking it, only to have your raid force mysteriously disappear from the zone before it spawned as a banishing version (granted, Rogean admitting to spawning it that way for the lulz, but on any other raid encounter, you would have been breathing right down the other guild's necks trying to outpull them or watch to see if they failed.)

Now, making it appear as if TR got invited to some sort of closed-beta test of VP to "work out all the bugs".

Really, guys? Can you be less blatant about the perception you're trying to create in direct contrast to the reality that the staff is trying to promote here? At least understand that having a dev in your guild has a certain responsibility attached to it, and understand the damage you do when you leverage perceptions that you have the inside track on the server. Whether anything improper happens behind the scenes or not is unfortunately irrelevant -- it's more about what the server population is led to believe, through their own observations or through your own flaunting.

How did I miss this post? Yendor hits it right on the head.

imo, dev's shouldn't be allowed to be in mass raiding guilds. It breeds threads JUST like this one. Develop the game, or play the game. You can't have your cake and eat it too. At least the other devs have other toons. Toons that they don't share with anyone else. Most certainly toons that don't openly lead raiding guilds. It's like Xzerion gives 0 fucks as to how much drama he causes hundreds of tinfoil hat raiders/P99 people. Is that the kind of person we want developing this server, let alone leading a top raiding guild on it? GM's on live had toons in guilds, but they certainly didn't go around flaunting it on public forums or in game.

Oh btw Xzerion. If you're doing so much 'developing'...how do you have time to lead a raiding guild in the first place? Get to work on The Hole or VP man. For all the stress you've caused the raiding community, we deserve it.

[Harrison]

Devs that aren't "allowed" to play won't dev for long unless they harbor some deep love for mindless, thankless, unpaid work.

Everyone bitching is a slackjawed downie. Who gives a fuck if Xzerion is a dev? Retards do apparently....

[Pheer]

I love how every thread about TR turns into a discussion about xzerion when he never even participates in these threads. Flaunting it? When was the last time you saw Xzerion even post let alone flaunt anything? Even funnier that youre directly addressing him when he probably wont even see the post or reply to it.

[Anger]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Devs that aren't "allowed" to play won't dev for long unless they harbor some deep love for mindless, thankless, unpaid work.

Everyone bitching is a slackjawed downie. Who gives a fuck if Xzerion is a dev? Retards do apparently....

Let me rephrase. Devs shouldn't be allowed to lead major raiding guilds.

Harrison, don't get me wrong your RnF posts are funny and we both hate on Slathar, which I do enjoy very much, but this is realtalk. You can't honestly sit and deny that there have been changes in the past that have favored IB/TR. Yendor listed many of them off so I won't repeat him.

Put yourself on the other side of the fence. If The Mystical Dark Ascension Fusion Blew the Fuse Order or whatever they're calling themselves now had a dev in the guild, TR would be crying blood every time a decision was made that even slightly favored them.