monk ratios, primary and offhand choices

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m going to put on a limb here and say…nobody cares about a level 52 monk.

OP is level 16, and was asking for advise about weapons. I'd say OP cares about their weapon options while leveling. Using a generalization where you assume OP is 60 and fist weaving without actually specifying those factors is not a great idea for new players or players unfamiliar with melee characters.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP is level 16, and was asking for advise about weapons. I'd say OP cares about their weapon options while leveling. Using a generalization where you assume OP is 60 and fist weaving without actually specifying those factors is not a great idea for new players or players unfamiliar with melee characters.

I’ve lost track due to this dumpster fire.

Pretty easy then, aside from the answers I expect on page 1-2:
Get a Jade mace or something
Get a Peacebringer or IFS for 30-60

Feel free to use a Fist and SoS if you want to get smashed by rangers and knights.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve lost track due to this dumpster fire.

Pretty easy then, aside from the answers I expect on page 1-2:
Get a Jade mace or something
Get a Peacebringer or IFS for 30-60

Feel free to use a Fist and SoS if you want to get smashed by rangers and knights.

/thread

This is the correct answer. OP needs to ignore literally everything else.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’ve lost track due to this dumpster fire.

Pretty easy then, aside from the answers I expect on page 1-2:
Get a Jade mace or something
Get a Peacebringer or IFS for 30-60

Feel free to use a Fist and SoS if you want to get smashed by rangers and knights.

In the low 50s Epic + SoS is outdamaging IFS factually without fistweaving. I just showed it: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=113 . Please stop posting inaccurate information. You aren't helping OP. 2h damage bonus is lower at lower levels.

[Troxx]

lol

[Snaggles]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...10&postcount=4

DSM made me feel bad. Luckily this poster gets it!

[bcbrown]

You're not treating the 1h DW calculations correctly. You're assuming 100 potential swings per 100 main-hand swings, but Stave of Shielding has 28 delay. 100 swings of epic fist at 16 delay is 160 seconds. 57 swings of SoS takes 159.6 seconds, so you'll have 57 DW chances and 28.5 successes. At 34 average damage that's 969 damage.
2700 + 969 is 3669, vs 3820 for IFS.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're not treating the 1h DW calculations correctly. You're assuming 100 potential swings per 100 main-hand swings, but Stave of Shielding has 28 delay. 100 swings of epic fist at 16 delay is 160 seconds. 57 swings of SoS takes 159.6 seconds, so you'll have 57 DW chances and 28.5 successes. At 34 average damage that's 969 damage.
2700 + 969 is 3669, vs 3820 for IFS.

You forgot that the 2700 damage and the 3820 damage is at a 100% hit chance in my previous post. Please read my posts for once.

(2700 * 0.5) + 969 = 2319 damage for Epic Fist + SoS at 50% hit chance vs (3820 * 0.5) = 1910 damage from IFS at 50% hit chance.

[bcbrown]

I'm assuming 100% hit chance for off-hand after a 50% chance to successfully dual wield.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm assuming 100% hit chance for off-hand after a 50% chance to successfully dual wield.

Just reread yourself:

57 swings of SoS takes 159.6 seconds, so you'll have 57 DW chances and 28.5 successes. At 34 average damage that's 969 damage.

You said 57 chances and 28.5 successes. You are indeed assuming a 50% hit rate, which is fine.

In my previous post, I said you get 100 Epic Fist Swings per 40 IFS swings. The average damage of Epic Fist is 27.

27 * 100 = 2700, which is a 100% hit chance when looking at 100 swings. You need to divide 2700 by 2 and 3820 by 2 if you want to use the 969 number, which is the offhand swings at a 50% hit rate.

If you want to use 2700 and 3820, multiply 969 by 2.

You misread my post, plain and simple.