Nutritional Science

[starkind]

Funnily enough autoummune diet says go for the legums and nuts. And avoid sugars, red meats, and other processed food (baked at the factory).

Today I didn't use any PEG 3350 and stuck to homemade Oatmeal cookies, half a banana, peas porridge, a tiny slice of ham, an egg gently warmed in butter I could throw in the porridge and almond milk.

Doing 100% better already.

[unsunghero]

The carnivore diet that GinasP99 mentioned is increasing in popularity these days, I’ve watched a few videos about it. It works especially well for people with dietary/medical issues interestingly enough, when all other diets fail to resolve the issue

The thing that still baffles the experts is that we used to think we needed fiber to allow food to move through our intestines. So the expectation is that the carnivore diet, which has 0 fiber, would cause huge amounts of constipation. But for some reason it doesn’t, and we really don’t understand why yet I don’t think

This guy Dr Sten Ekberg I like

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

[starkind]

I'm all for meat. Grass fed, free range, dry aged, butchered tho. Not the crap that comes wrapped in plastic that lived in a box on soy grown in a field of glycophosohate.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The carnivore diet that GinasP99 mentioned is increasing in popularity these days, I’ve watched a few videos about it. It works especially well for people with dietary/medical issues interestingly enough, when all other diets fail to resolve the issue

The thing that still baffles the experts is that we used to think we needed fiber to allow food to move through our intestines. So the expectation is that the carnivore diet, which has 0 fiber, would cause huge amounts of constipation. But for some reason it doesn’t, and we really don’t understand why yet I don’t think

This guy Dr Sten Ekberg I like

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

Really excellent vid.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The carnivore diet that GinasP99 mentioned is increasing in popularity these days, I’ve watched a few videos about it. It works especially well for people with dietary/medical issues interestingly enough, when all other diets fail to resolve the issue

The thing that still baffles the experts is that we used to think we needed fiber to allow food to move through our intestines. So the expectation is that the carnivore diet, which has 0 fiber, would cause huge amounts of constipation. But for some reason it doesn’t, and we really don’t understand why yet I don’t think

This guy Dr Sten Ekberg I like

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

I have the impression from government advice that morbidity comes chiefly from overconsumption.

So the people trying to exercise, eat and "get big" are no better than the fatties in terms of human health.

Hope this helps.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have the impression from government advice that morbidity comes chiefly from overconsumption.

So the people trying to exercise, eat and "get big" are no better than the fatties in terms of human health.

Hope this helps.

Yeah, agreed.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have the impression from government advice that morbidity comes chiefly from overconsumption.

So the people trying to exercise, eat and "get big" are no better than the fatties in terms of human health.

Hope this helps.

Not that I’ve heard of

The way “getting big” becomes unhealthy is when the body gets so large either through fat OR muscle that the heart has to over-work to supply blood over such a large surface area

When you look at how our bodies are designed to operate, we are built to gorge ourselves then spend periods of high caloric expenditure while seeking food sources again, either by hunting or gathering. There is nothing unhealthy about big meals or large amounts of movement

Edit: I have tried working out as hard as I do on a calorie deficit. What happens is there is a certain point where I become suddenly exhausted and RAVENOUSLY hungry. Like craving food, especially sweet/high-glucose food, like a heroin addict craves heroin. I’m assuming this is a blood sugar issue due to not having enough calories stored to convert for the energy requirement. So I cannot do the kind of workouts I do unless in a calorie surplus

[starkind]

I was able to sustain a severe calorie deficit with lots of 700 calorie cardio days per week for a few months. And it didn't feel really bad. I had a lot of energy and mental clarity. I was fasting 2 to 3 days a week.

I was on medication tho that elevated my heartrate and I became numb to food. Zero appetite. I could have sustained it a bit longer, I had a major suicide attempt though. Which caused a lot of damage.

I should have added at least 500 calories to my diet based on how much I was working out.

So I want to say it's possible. It's dangerous.

It's also dangerous to work out hard enough to expend an additional 1k calories per day. That's combat levels of metabolic stress and damage. It will shorten your outside lifespan range. Your skeleton will take a beating. Like consuming and burning 6k calories a day is absolutely insane.


If u are into life extension, extreme caloric restriction is the way ppl go.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not that I’ve heard of

The way “getting big” becomes unhealthy is when the body gets so large either through fat OR muscle that the heart has to over-work to supply blood over such a large surface area

When you look at how our bodies are designed to operate, we are built to gorge ourselves then spend periods of high caloric expenditure while seeking food sources again, either by hunting or gathering. There is nothing unhealthy about big meals or large amounts of movement

Edit: I have tried working out as hard as I do on a calorie deficit. What happens is there is a certain point where I become suddenly exhausted and RAVENOUSLY hungry. Like craving food, especially sweet/high-glucose food, like a heroin addict craves heroin. I’m assuming this is a blood sugar issue due to not having enough calories stored to convert for the energy requirement. So I cannot do the kind of workouts I do unless in a calorie surplus

Your liver has to filter all of that so growing skeletal muscle(by overeating) is no different than growing adipose tissue(by overeating) in terms of workload for that poor fellow.

Multiply that by years and tell me where you'll end up.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was able to sustain a severe calorie deficit with lots of 700 calorie cardio days for a few months. And it didn't feel really bad. I had a lot of energy and mental clarity. I was fasting 2 to 3 days a week.

I was on medication tho that elevated my heartrate and I became numb to food. Zero appetite. I could have sustained it a bit longer, I had a major suicide attempt though. Which caused a lot of damage. Like consuming and burning 6k calories a day is absolutely insane.

I should have added at least 500 calories to my diet based on how much I was working out.

So I want to say it's possible. It's dangerous.

It's also dangerous to work out hard enough to expend an additional 1k calories per day. That's combat levels of metabolic stress and damage. It will shorten your outside lifespan range. Your skeleton will take a beating.

If u are into life extension, extreme caloric restriction is the way ppl go.

Yea I’m a freak, I don’t recommend anyone who isn’t an elite-level athlete work out like me. I’m also on a slew of supplements, including some at times that are not FDA approved for human consumption (research chemicals) to assist with recovery

That being said, if someone with very little recent workout experience tries to jump into my workouts, their body will break down and it will produce large amounts of the stress hormone cortisol which will actually greatly hinder their progress. I’ve been working out so hard so long that my body has adapted to them, our bodies are highly adaptive