Guess what day tomorrow is???

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you clarify 'devolve into madness'

Because there's an awful lot of dead people in our wake that may not be so concerned with the fact that Russia and France apparently devolved faster

Um the Reign of Terror and the Red Terror.

[Elizondo]

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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet it was citizens United hailed by the right as good for politics.

Dark money is always if not constantly funneled from Koch, Sheldon Adelson, Diane Hendricks; a Wisconsin billionaire, Hushang and Shahla Ansary in GOP campaigns.

CU was a fait accompli after Buckley v Valeo.

Didn't read the rest.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Elvis Presley brought change and sin to your generation it is time for you and the rest of southern Americans to get woke and change for the better.

Millions of people in the south are not crusty old conservatives with money

I am none of those things and I live in & grew up in the south

[Gravydoo II]

They are the tired and the weak now. They see every dollar spent on america is a dollar that could have been given back to republican donors in the form of tax cuts. Its a zero sum game. Makes them sick to even imagine the government helping its citizens. They see government as a hammer to punish people, not help them. They are the party of no, the stupid party, and the insurrectionist party. The government should only help their friends, not anyone else.

Remember when they said rape daddy was smart for cheating the tax system? lol they really do hate my country.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um the Reign of Terror and the Red Terror.

Sure those things happened, I'm not defending the French or the Russians, now let's look at Native American genocide, slavery, overthrowing regimes to keep companies solvent, invading countries to acquire their resources...

America isn't so different

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They are the tired and the weak now. They see every dollar spent on america is a dollar that could have been given back to republican donors in the form of tax cuts. Its a zero sum game. Makes them sick to even imagine the government helping its citizens. They see government as a hammer to punish people, not help them. They are the party of no, the stupid party, and the insurrectionist party. The government should only help their friends, not anyone else.

Remember when they said rape daddy was smart for cheating the tax system? lol they really do hate my country.

Uh the corporate rate went down globally so we had to adjust ours. You know Tromp capped state income tax offsets? $$$

Now that's paper!

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure those things happened, I'm not defending the French or the Russians, now let's look at Native American genocide, slavery, overthrowing regimes to keep companies solvent, invading countries to acquire their resources...

America isn't so different

I thought the new deal cleared the slate?

Seek Christ.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure those things happened, I'm not defending the French or the Russians, now let's look at Native American genocide, slavery, overthrowing regimes to keep companies solvent, invading countries to acquire their resources...

America isn't so different

Every single country ever is founded via conquest. Does that make it okay and good? Of course not, but if you really want to go through and do this sanctimonious accounting of history and somehow try to rectify past injustices, there are a whole lot of centuries of human history to go through before america even existed.

America became extremely powerful and influential though so I understand why people go out of their way to single out American atrocities as if they are particularly unique, but it still gives you a completely skewed and false sense of history.

People talk about things like "giving the land back" to native americans still living today. I get it, seems logical enough, until you ask them which tribe we give it back to? The tribe that had it first, or the other tribe that massacred that tribe and took it from them? Oops! Moral grandstanding gets dicey quick when you have to consider the totality of history and not just cherrypick through it.

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every single country ever is founded via conquest. Does that make it okay and good? Of course not, but if you really want to go through and do this sanctimonious accounting of history and somehow try to rectify past injustices, there are a whole lot of centuries of human history to go through before america even existed.

America became extremely powerful and influential though so I understand why people go out of their way to single out American atrocities as if they are particularly unique, but it still gives you a completely skewed and false sense of history.

People talk about things like "giving the land back" to native americans still living today. I get it, seems logical enough, until you ask them which tribe we give it back to? The tribe that had it first, or the other tribe that massacred that tribe and took it from them? Oops! Moral grandstanding gets dicey quick when you have to consider the totality of history and not just cherrypick through it.

Thats pretty easy. You dont have to go back 15,000 years in history to find out who owned the land, last. You check the deed, who was it taken from when the deed was signed? Give it back to them. Its that simple.

Pretty sure if you got wiped out by the tribe occupying the land you couldnt have been there to be cheated out of it by whites.