During the non-planned capitol insurrection.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See my above post

You're looking for a solution to a problem you can't even be bothered to understand.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So voting security is bad because it doesnt catch id fraud... wow. ok. goodnight

My internet security program is crappy. It’s a free version that’s 5 years out of date. It hardly catches any trogans. This means hardly any trogans are out there

[Byue]

right wingers: can't trust the government, they all corrupt drain the swamp!

also right wingers: well if only they all got ID with their present addresses and all pertinent information about them. It's not like we already use every tool we have to make racism systemic so why don't they get ID?!

in my country, it is very easy to have a government ID: you have a health card you show to access free healthcare services.

Other than that, an official government ID looks like... a driver license or a fucking passport.
Do you folks have different options?
I don't own a fucking car so why should I get a driver license and I don't plan on travelling soon so why should I have a thing that expires in two years?
Do you not see why a lot of people, democrats voter who don't own a fucking car because we live in cities where rolling coal isn't really a good idea, think this is stupid?

Right wingers: Elon Musk is right let's colonize mars, we have the technology.
Also right wingers: wait you can't vote without a piece of paper with a picture on it!


Better idea (not): why not create a big database of voters with their face id on the database and you can just scan everyone as they come, no id needed.
Sounds great? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear bruv.

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My internet security program is crappy. It’s a free version that’s 5 years out of date. It hardly catches any trogans. This means hardly any trogans are out there

Flawless logic.
It's a bit like there was massive voter fraud so wide and obvious and everyone knows about it yet nobody can produce a shred of evidence to prove it.
Which prove it is real voter fraud.

I think universities bias on the left is just right winger for: I'm not smart enough to go through something harder than high school.




edit: release the kraken bruv. we were supposed to see the kraken back in november.
Don't play, show your proof.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right wingers: can't trust the government, they all corrupt drain the swamp!

also right wingers: well if only they all got ID with their present addresses and all pertinent information about them. It's not like we already use every tool we have to make racism systemic so why don't they get ID?!

in my country, it is very easy to have a government ID: you have a health card you show to access free healthcare services.

Other than that, an official government ID looks like... a driver license or a fucking passport.
Do you folks have different options?
I don't own a fucking car so why should I get a driver license and I don't plan on travelling soon so why should I have a thing that expires in two years?
Do you not see why a lot of people, democrats voter who don't own a fucking car because we live in cities where rolling coal isn't really a good idea, think this is stupid?

Right wingers: Elon Musk is right let's colonize mars, we have the technology.
Also right wingers: wait you can't vote without a piece of paper with a picture on it!

Better idea (not): why not create a big database of voters with their face id on the database and you can just scan everyone as they come, no id needed.
Sounds great? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear bruv.

It’s generally a good idea to have. Which is why it baffles me why I have never once heard a liberal politician say we need to make it easier for everyone to get an ID

It’s required to:

Buy alcohol
Buy cigarettes
Open a bank account
Apply for social services
Apply for federal health insurance
Apply for unemployment or a job
Rent/buy a house
Get legally married
Fly on an airplane
Buy a gun

Now those might not mean a lot to you guys, for some of us they really enhance the quality of life. Just the alcohol and the guns. Fuck the rest 😄

[unsunghero]

I guess to play devil’s advocate I never heard a conservative politician say we need to make it easier for everyone to get an ID either ��

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right wingers: can't trust the government, they all corrupt drain the swamp!

also right wingers: well if only they all got ID with their present addresses and all pertinent information about them. It's not like we already use every tool we have to make racism systemic so why don't they get ID?!

in my country, it is very easy to have a government ID: you have a health card you show to access free healthcare services.

Other than that, an official government ID looks like... a driver license or a fucking passport.
Do you folks have different options?
I don't own a fucking car so why should I get a driver license and I don't plan on travelling soon so why should I have a thing that expires in two years?
Do you not see why a lot of people, democrats voter who don't own a fucking car because we live in cities where rolling coal isn't really a good idea, think this is stupid?

Right wingers: Elon Musk is right let's colonize mars, we have the technology.
Also right wingers: wait you can't vote without a piece of paper with a picture on it!


Better idea (not): why not create a big database of voters with their face id on the database and you can just scan everyone as they come, no id needed.
Sounds great? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear bruv.



Flawless logic.
It's a bit like there was massive voter fraud so wide and obvious and everyone knows about it yet nobody can produce a shred of evidence to prove it.
Which prove it is real voter fraud.

I think universities bias on the left is just right winger for: I'm not smart enough to go through something harder than high school.




edit: release the kraken bruv. we were supposed to see the kraken back in november.
Don't play, show your proof.

Did I ever say massive voter fraud occurred? Talk about making inferences. I’m saying that a security system that touts a lack of successful catches as the only necessary evidence that the threat isn’t significant is stupid logic

Anything more than that inferred is mental gymnastics on your part. Stretch first

I’m saying voter fraud occurs. It did before 2016, and it will after

[Byue]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I ever say massive voter fraud occurred? Talk about making inferences. I’m saying that a security system that touts a lack of successful catches as the only necessary evidence that the threat isn’t significant is stupid logic

Anything more than that inferred is mental gymnastics on your part. Stretch first

I’m saying voter fraud occurs. It did before 2016, and it will after

Oh, I mean, most democratic countries have figured out how to run election without scams for a while now but maybe the US is severely lagging behind?

I think virtually everyone agree that whatever it is human do, someone is going to cheat but do you know how difficult it would be to vote in person for different people, the time it would take you in a day and you would have swayed what, 4-5 votes in a day?

Voter fraud is very real, and we actually usually have evidence for it.
It's just never been on the scale you guys fetishizes about.


But if you want to believe that there was a fraud you cant prove because the Americans are just very bad at running free and fair elections, this is your prerogative.


All I know is that there is massive evidence the Russian interfered with the 2016 elections yet you refuse to debate that but you totally not planned to attack the capitol during a day 45 asked you to be there to fight like hell for your country because of voter fraud you cannot prove.

Wild, no?

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m saying that a security system that touts a lack of successful catches as the only necessary evidence that the threat isn’t significant is stupid logic.

lol. this is gold.
I'm keeping this useful quote.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voter fraud is very real, and we actually usually have evidence for it

K, how is that again? I understand the concept that we have evidence when we catch someone breaking the law

Now how does prove something about the number of people potentially not getting caught for breaking that law. Because when someone gets away with breaking a law, we actually DON’T have any evidence of it

It's just never been on the scale you guys fetishizes about.

Oops, was I out of conservative hive-mind sync when I strayed from the “massive voter fraud occurred” talking point?

Yknow I did miss the last two secret white supremacy meetings, where we were issued our checks from the banking sector Grand Wizards

This is why I’m out of sync

[Byue]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

K, how is that again? I understand the concept that we have evidence when we catch someone breaking the law

Now how does prove something about the number of people potentially not getting caught for breaking that law. Because when someone gets away with breaking a law, we actually DON’T have any evidence of it



Oops, was I out of conservative hive-mind sync when I strayed from the “massive voter fraud occurred” talking point?

Yknow I did miss the last two secret white supremacy meetings, where we were issued our checks from the banking sector Grand Wizards

This is why I’m out of sync

Can someone explain to this guy how we find things we don't know about?
Like how to make metal birds fly or car go vrrr or guns go PEW loudly and super fast.

I'll let you in on a secret: there are hell of a lot smarter people than we, out there.
Because you don't know how doesn't mean humans don't know how.

So uhm, basically, here is how you find out about things, welcome to grade 8 science class.

Make an observation.
Ask a question.
Form a hypothesis, or testable explanation.
Make a prediction based on the hypothesis.
Test the prediction.
Iterate: use the results to make new hypotheses or predictions.

Bro, the law is rather clear and simple.
Those are the parameters.

Do you know what a wargame is?
"wargame" it out with a bunch of smart people.
Oh shit, this could be...
problematic.

I'm surprised you made it out of the teenage years, someone must have taken a great deal of a good care for you because goddamn you are not the most thawed pogo in the box.

Edit: how does the police find criminals unless they just happen to be there when the crime was committed? Like if you seen it, you seen it but how do you catch people you haven't seen commit crimes?

lol.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can someone explain to this guy how we find things we don't know about?

I'll admit, this question is tough. This is the first time I can say I am pretty stumped

I might have to actually put a pin in this and come back after doing some research. Hang on

Oh yeah, you improve your security system. My 5 year old antivirus program doesn't catch shit, but then I patched it and holy shit! Look at all the trojans I had picked up from only surfing warez and free mp3 sites. Who knew that was all it would take was improving security to find all the things that slipped past my old security

Mail in voting will never be as secure as in person voting. That's why mail in voting on a scale even remotely this large didn't exist in the USA pre-covid. Even by democrats it was seen as a necessary risk, because they viewed the health risk of in person voting as greater (or so they claimed, I agree to disagree with them on this one)

Did it result in massive voter fraud? I was saying no long before any other conservative was