Face Diapers Don't Do Anything

[G13]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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The link that you opened this thread with and based your entire argument on has serious credibility issues, which haven't been addressed. Parroting the same lines over and over won't make what you believe and want others to believe any more true. That you assume I, and others, belong to a single party based on one global issue/personal decision is nothing new and one of the underlying problems with American politics.

Masks are a conformity test. Nothing more.

I expected a better response. Maybe you aren't as intelligent as Raev suggests

Clearly there is a partisan divide with masks and their effectiveness at stopping the spread of Covid. This is textbook Hegelian Dialectic. Governments have been using the pandemic as a massive power grab and they don't plan on giving that power back (Look at Oregon)

Instead of providing a large random clinical trial that proves masks stop the spread of Covid or even Influenza, you created a strawmen attacking the credibility of the original link. That solves the problem of you actually having to provide any evidence masks do something

You also severely handicapped your own credibility by tossing out lazy links from Politifact, Rolling Stone, Wikipedia and even invoking The Koch brothers like they are akin to Hitler or something. It's absurd. If anyone has a credibility problem it's you.

If I'm wrong, provide the evidence masks work. Currently, there is no consensus that they really do anything, especially the vast majority of masks people are wearing (including home made masks)

As I stated before, medicine (like everything else lefties get their dirty hands on) has become political, so any source that contradicts the face diaper/lock down narrative becomes CNN vs Fox News. That's really all your doing. Disguising a political argument as a medical argument.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Masks are a conformity test. Nothing more.

I expected a better response. Maybe you aren't as intelligent as Raev suggests

Clearly there is a partisan divide with masks and their effectiveness at stopping the spread of Covid. This is textbook Hegelian Dialectic. Governments have been using the pandemic as a massive power grab and they don't plan on giving that power back (Look at Oregon)

Instead of providing a large random clinical trial that proves masks stop the spread of Covid or even Influenza, you created a strawmen attacking the credibility of the original link. That solves the problem of you actually having to provide any evidence masks do something

You also severely handicapped your own credibility by tossing out lazy links from Politifact, Rolling Stone, Wikipedia and even invoking The Koch brothers like they are akin to Hitler or something. It's absurd. If anyone has a credibility problem it's you.

If I'm wrong, provide the evidence masks work. Currently, there is no consensus that they really do anything, especially the vast majority of masks people are wearing (including home made masks)

As I stated before, medicine (like everything else lefties get their dirty hands on) has become political, so any source that contradicts the face diaper/lock down narrative becomes CNN vs Fox News. That's really all your doing. Disguising a political argument as a medical argument.

Are you seriously just now realizing there is a partisan divide in terms of Republicans' preference for party-vetted ideologues over internationally recognized experts with decades of experience like Fauci?

I guess it's not particularly surprising considering your pathetic attempts to defend the Koch brothers and Fox News in the same post.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Masks are a conformity test. Nothing more.

I expected a better response. Maybe you aren't as intelligent as Raev suggests

Clearly there is a partisan divide with masks and their effectiveness at stopping the spread of Covid. This is textbook Hegelian Dialectic. Governments have been using the pandemic as a massive power grab and they don't plan on giving that power back (Look at Oregon)

Instead of providing a large random clinical trial that proves masks stop the spread of Covid or even Influenza, you created a strawmen attacking the credibility of the original link. That solves the problem of you actually having to provide any evidence masks do something

You also severely handicapped your own credibility by tossing out lazy links from Politifact, Rolling Stone, Wikipedia and even invoking The Koch brothers like they are akin to Hitler or something. It's absurd. If anyone has a credibility problem it's you.

If I'm wrong, provide the evidence masks work. Currently, there is no consensus that they really do anything, especially the vast majority of masks people are wearing (including home made masks)

As I stated before, medicine (like everything else lefties get their dirty hands on) has become political, so any source that contradicts the face diaper/lock down narrative becomes CNN vs Fox News. That's really all your doing. Disguising a political argument as a medical argument.

So, it's reasonable to assume, you didn't read the Rolling Stone article. In it are details revolving around the father of the Koch brothers and how he conducted business with Stalin (albeit with some reluctance later), who is akin to Hitler or something. This isn't absurd. If anyone has a credibility problem, it's the Koch brothers. In the other link, Charles Koch even admitted "boy, did we really screw up" which was the larger point being made.

Please name sources that you would consider to be credible. Also, unless I missed a post somewhere, you still have yet to name any of those scientists you alluded to earlier; doing so would help your credibility.

If medicine has become political, as you say, than all governments with conflicting ideologies would actually be collaborating in secret against their citizens, using the need for masks and vaccines as opportunity to control. If that is what you're arguing than it begs the question: Is the earth flat? Or better yet, do vaccines cause autism?

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I stated before, medicine (like everything else lefties get their dirty hands on) has become political, so any source that contradicts the face diaper/lock down narrative becomes CNN vs Fox News. That's really all your doing. Disguising a political argument as a medical argument.

Everything is political or at least can be construed as being politically motivated. Basically I could make a similar argument and say that all you're really doing is pushing postmodernist views while claiming to be scientific, with no credible evidence to back that claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjQA0e0UYzI

I already provided a link earlier which demonstrated the effectiveness of mask use long before the topic became so contentious, though I have not had the opportunity to doublecheck all of the evidence associated with it. That's still better than what you've offered which leads into one final point.

Using big words won't win the argument, not with me at least. Hegelian Dialectic? We aren't reenacting the scene from Good Will Hunting. This isn't a bar and there aren't any girls around to try and impress.

[Toxigen]

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Insert internet explorer meme here.

[Jibartik]

haha I love my generation.

we skipped school.

hated church.

blamed our parents.

and got all our knowledge from comedians.

[HalflingSpergand]

DANGEROUS

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DANGEROUS

Masks reduce viral load. Never knew we had so many bug chasers in this country.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Masks reduce viral load. Never knew we had so many bug chasers in this country.

I'll take your full viral load.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Masks reduce viral load. Never knew we had so many bug chasers in this country.

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll take your full viral load.

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