Portland is a mess

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is still America, the country that used to kick ass and take names. We Will Rebuild !!

I'm curious-- when has America ever kicked ass or taken names? We get in wars, most of which we never should have been involved in, perform rather poorly, and then hallow and mythologize the experience.

I hope to God you aren't referring to an instance where we've used appropriated Nazi technology and military doctrine to rack up a good K/D on primitives because that would just be embarrassing.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be my guest-- wash the West coast off and the rest of the US becomes a backwater country with demographic and human development stats on the order of Poland or Belarus, and we wouldn't have the rural square states using their disproportionate representation in our government to siphon money from prosperous liberal areas.

And yes I've been to Portland many times, it's a real nice place-- weather is a little dreary. The thing about the Pacific Northwest is they have a lot of protestor hobbyists, anarchists, etc. You're not supposed to take it seriously, they are always protesting something and always have been. Real Hasbinbad types. What shocks me is that you and the NRA gun crew aren't getting your panties bunched up about federal paramilitaries marching around black-bagging American citizens. But then, as long as it's liberals right? You'd eat shit if a liberal had to smell your breath. It's really a race to the bottom in this country.

Please, for the love of God, release us.

They aren't black bagging anybody jesus calm down. They questioned like two people and released them without charge an hour later. Meanwhile there are violent riots happening on a nightly basis in multiple cities, innocent people are getting killed and beaten. The local police aren't doing anything. What the hell do you expect to happen? What would a responsible president do? Nothing I guess? Go live literally anywhere else in the world. People are so fat and happy here they need to pretend there is some NAZI CRACKDOWN to feel like they have a political identity while giving exactly zero shits about any of the innocent people, businesses and neighborhoods being destroyed by these idiotic "mostly peaceful protests". Get a grip.

[Trexller]

We kicked ass wherever necessary. It just doesn't look like it most of the time, because the actual goals of those military actions don't line up with what the sissy public can stomach.

Your first mistake is believing the sugar coated reasons the pentagon tells you, in reality:

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We kicked ass wherever necessary. It just doesn't look like it most of the time, because the actual goals of those military actions don't line up with what the sissy public can stomach.

Have the balls to say what you really mean; that we didn't win in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan because we didn't commit genocide.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have the balls to say what you really mean; that we didn't win in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan because we didn't commit genocide.

Where did we commit genocide?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did we commit genocide?

I'm not sure you're following what you quoted with this non-sequitur, but I'll bite:

We haven't committed genocide. I guess maybe we've come close a couple times in our treatment of native Americans early on, but it's debatable.

I'm happy we haven't committed genocide. Are you?

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm happy we haven't committed genocide. Are you?

Yes.

And if you can’t see that Portland is a shit show right now, you are blind to reality.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have the balls to say what you really mean; that we didn't win in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan because we didn't commit genocide.

I'll try to keep this brief:

Korea: (containing communism) Allied forces beat the NK forces north to the chinese border. Facing millions of chinese soldiers, a victory would have been reviled by the world as it was 2 solutions, tens of thousands more american casualties, or general mcarthur's nuke nuke nuke strategy. So we held the 38th parallel like mad men until a cease fire was agreed upon. no armistice or treaty was signed. the korean war is still a thing.

Vietnam (containing communism) We held the NVA back until a better plan was conceived: don't try to keep communism out of vietnam, keep it from polluting the rest of southeast asia. It took forever to understand that enemy, but we got there. Black operations in the 1980s cemented this costly victory.

Iraq: Got their ass kicked. Twice.

Afghanistan: A group of people living in your country keeps blowing shit up and you wont get rid of them. They wanna fight? We got all day (century)

I never said ass kicking is pretty.

[Bigsham]

Portland is only a shit show because everyone there is unemployed and has nothing to do

they arent accomplishing anything except spreading covid

[Trexller]

This ^

and some other factors