Green should disallow GINA

[meritt]

Some of us have made the argument that Discord and voice shouldn't be there for Green

Why would you make that argument though? I used RogerWilco in 1999 for voice chat.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by meritt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you make that argument though? I used RogerWilco in 1999 for voice chat.

You used Rogerwilco for EQ voice chat?

Reasons. trying to run an extra program on a single core cpu while running an intensive game..

..you know what? Balor is right. This will not be resolved. No one I played with used voice, no one in my guild used it or asked others to. I don't remember people in my groups asking if others used something like Roger Wilco. So for me its not recognizable.

For you it is. Since you used it then it is your classic experience (assuming you used it for EQ with your group mates/guild)

Discord though is not just voice. You can do a lot of interesting things with it, such as automated bot timers. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[whitebandit]

Hell yeah rogerwilco or ICQ back in early 2000's for sure... That was a thing. It wasnt popular but it happened for sure and even being early tweens i was in on that shit. --- GINA not so much though.

<Familjen>
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<Some RZ Guild>?

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hell yeah rogerwilco or ICQ back in early 2000's for sure... That was a thing. It wasnt popular but it happened for sure and even being early tweens i was in on that shit. --- GINA not so much though.

<Familjen>
<Bristlebanes Guildless>
<Some RZ Guild>?

What year early 2000s?

A friend of my room mates, his name is Jordan, worked for a local telecom. I remember him bringing by a headset and some software once to show off internet voice chat. Fuzzy memory of what year that was but it might've been around 2003. Voice was considered laggy at best before this (his words).

ICQ or Aim, for sure. Not a voice component but text messages. Other than that perhaps the guilds Yahoo clubs page. I suppose the 3l33tZ were on a different level.

[whitebandit]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What year early 2000s?

A friend of my room mates, his name is Jordan, worked for a local telecom. I remember him bringing by a headset and some software once to show off internet voice chat. Fuzzy memory of what year that was but it might've been around 2003. Voice was considered laggy at best before this (his words).

ICQ or Aim, for sure. Not a voice component but text messages. Other than that perhaps the guilds Yahoo clubs page. I suppose the 3l33tZ were on a different level.

I didnt start getting heavy into guild stuff until around the same time, 2003 or so sounds right.

So while maybe not.... 1999 classic, this shit existed at at the very least in the kunark/velious era

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt start getting heavy into guild stuff until around the same time, 2003 or so sounds right.

So while maybe not.... 1999 classic, this shit existed at at the very least in the kunark/velious era

Ruins of Kunark release date: April 24, 2000

Scars of Velious release date: December 5, 2000

Shadows of Luclin release date: December 4, 2001

[whitebandit]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ruins of Kunark release date: April 24, 2000

Scars of Velious release date: December 5, 2000

Shadows of Luclin release date: December 4, 2001

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[Mblake81]

Actually I think i am right. We came back to EQ during the Lost Dungeons of Norrath expansion and this when Jordan brought the headset/software by.

The Legacy of Ykesha: February 25, 2003

Lost Dungeons of Norrath: September 9, 2003

Anecdotal on my part. Peoples experiences vary. During the original era running a 500-800 single core processor.. idk. I will not say it didn't happen in the era this server is taking place but I am doubtful.

[Baler]

Guys with a sad heart i'm here to tell you all..
The wiki is being deleted.

It's not classic and gives an advantage. Thank you to everyone over the years who contributed. But for the well being and health of the green server it must be shutdown.

[Izmael]

Hey, here's an idea. Not sure if this is technically feasible, though.

Delay the log files being written to the disk by a random value.

On Green only, use DSETUP to make a wrapper function around whatever writes log files, and store the log messages in a memory buffer instead of writing to the disk.
Every 2 minutes or so, roll a dice 100 and see if it's less than 10. If yes, flush the buffer to the disk. Also flush the buffer to the disk upon zoning, camping, /q, disconnection.


This way, we preserve logging, we make GINA and any other log parser much, much less useful. We don't have to worry about identifying GINA processes or anything fuzzy like that, we don't have to worry about overlays, etc.

As for log parsers being classic - I'm afraid they aren't. People back then didn't use log parsers, or voice comm (except maybe a Skype call 1-on-1 sometimes...). Yes, log parser tools existed in 1999. UNIX tools such as tail, grep, awk or sed existed probably a good 25-30 years before 1999.

But I don't think anyone used them to farm 10,000 Shralok Packs or whatever. People just played the game.