Alevert refusing to pay 10.000plat he owes

[Jonabis]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know most of you are poor and probably live with relatives or rent. And if you're a red player you're probably in a halfway house, mental institution, or a "guest" of the state.

In either case, if you do ever find yourself in a position to own a home you'll need to hire a contractor at some point. When you do don't ever pay them 50% at half completion. Withholding all payment until the full job is done satisfactorily is the best leverage you have to motivate them to perform. You don't want them leaving your job halfway to pursue a more lucrative job that popped up, do you? Hint: The answer is no.

Most contractors require 50% down to even begin a job. This covers the purchasing of materials etc. The rest is paid upon completion. The fact that you don't know this as a homeowner probably means you are still rocking the pink bathtub with "gold" trim look.

[hobart]

Originally Posted by Jonabis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most contractors require 50% down to even begin a job. This covers the purchasing of materials etc. The rest is paid upon completion. The fact that you don't know this as a homeowner probably means you are still rocking the pink bathtub with "gold" trim look.

You're wrong, are a terrible negotiator, or waste money on GCs. Maybe all of the above.

I'm always my own GC. I'll pay a paint store for paint, and appliance store for appliances, a kitchen store for cabinets, etc. The labor doesn't get paid until the job is done. Ever.

Fact remains, the minute this guy pays Siryoyo 50% for fulfilling 50% of the order, he goes back to the bottom of the list while shitbag shops buyers against him on each subsequent drop of the loop/hoop he is still waiting on.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're wrong, are a terrible negotiator, or waste money on GCs. Maybe all of the above.

I'm always my own GC. I'll pay a paint store for paint, and appliance store for appliances, a kitchen store for cabinets, etc. The labor doesn't get paid until the job is done. Ever.

Fact remains, the minute this guy pays Siryoyo 50% for fulfilling 50% of the order, he goes back to the bottom of the list while shitbag shops buyers against him on each subsequent drop of the loop/hoop he is still waiting on.

You might have been able to strong arm some menial laborer by refusing to pay until the entire job is done...but you know jack about how the actual law works.

Congrats on being wealthy enough to dick over poor uneducated people who can't afford to take you to court.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You might have been able to strong arm some menial laborer by refusing to pay until the entire job is done...but you know jack about how the actual law works.

Congrats on being wealthy enough to dick over poor uneducated people who can't afford to take you to court.

It seems like you have a hard time with getting paid after you complete the job. Once again, nobody is saying you aren't getting paid at all. You just aren't getting paid until you finish.

How does that require your law degree?

[Jonabis]

Originally Posted by hobart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're wrong, are a terrible negotiator, or waste money on GCs. Maybe all of the above.

I'm always my own GC. I'll pay a paint store for paint, and appliance store for appliances, a kitchen store for cabinets, etc. The labor doesn't get paid until the job is done. Ever.

Fact remains, the minute this guy pays Siryoyo 50% for fulfilling 50% of the order, he goes back to the bottom of the list while shitbag shops buyers against him on each subsequent drop of the loop/hoop he is still waiting on.

I would love to see you build a house to code using your home depot parking lot work force you are describing. You aren't going to pass plumbing, hvac, or electrical inspections, thats for damn sure. I am a tradesman and have to fix shit behind the kind of laborer you hire all the time.

Alevert was obviously not his own GC even in the way you are describing. He saw an advertisement for a service, messaged the contractor, got half of the job done and decided he no longer wants the job completed and won't pay for the time and material that was invested to date.

[Yasi]

To get back to the thread:

Paying 10k for the delivered item seems reasonable to settle the situation. Both can then agree on another earring for another 10k or just go their ways.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Yasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To get back to the thread:

Paying 10k for the delivered item seems reasonable to settle the situation. Both can then agree on another earring for another 10k or just go their ways.

Only if the seller actually would deliver a second earring for another 10k.

I'm not convinced that will happen as the seller has discovered other people will pay double or triple that.

I suggest a better arbitration would be 5k goodwill payment now with the remaining 15k paid on reception of the second ring.

Both parties also owe 1k to the Norrathian Arbitration Committee for peacefully resolving the matter.

[Supreme]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg

[Valrok]

It says a lot that after 14 pages the logs havn't been posted yet of the original agreement.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Valrok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It says a lot that after 14 pages the logs havn't been posted yet of the original agreement.

Based on the screenshots and the comments made by both parties (conjecture) we can conclude that there was an agreement for 2 earrings at 20k. One party is requesting 10k for 1 earring while the other contends that they will pay 20k when 2 earrings are delivered.

Since this agreement (and contracts) is based around performance I would conclude that amending the agreement (as it was stated and not written) is something that should be easy to remedy. As one earring has been delivered and it represents half of the total expected delivery.

If the agreement concluded or was terminated the other party would still be expected to pay the 10k as one earring was already provided.

The alternative is to return the earring since the material object still exists.