LMFAO

[Bigmoneybabybaby]

Clearly after reading the extensive amounts of garbage here I think it’s quite easy to guess that the new GM from Europa is Raato.

[Bigmoneybabybaby]

I’m going to go stall on Dorn’B’Dynn to extend this ban, Europa meet me in North Ro to fraps this.

[Tayy]

I can just see these CSG people licking their lips and rubbing their hands together at the thought of getting rid of AW so they finally get some loot.

Part of me is hoping AM just stomps throats now that their only real competition has been fucked by staff. I mean, the play nice so we can all have stuff mentality is ridiculous.

I can admit mistakes were made by AW but a lot of these suspensions were from conceeded mobs with concessions given to make amends and ban hammer still falls.

Has CSG ever even competed for a vulak while AW/AM were unsuspended? if so I know they never actually pulled one with competition. Maybe Braknar can just make one of your trash pullers invulnerable until you can get it pulled to zone so you can put up some semblance of competition.

Or wait, you can just fuck around until AM gets one of you killed so you can get them suspended and have 0 competition.....

Have fun not working hard farming nothing you can be proud of ....that makes sense I think....

[dirty_duck]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can just see these CSG people licking their lips and rubbing their hands together at the thought of getting rid of AW so they finally get some loot.

CSG doesn't even exist anymore, my dude. Where have you been?

[raato]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can just see these CSG people licking their lips and rubbing their hands together at the thought of getting rid of AW so they finally get some loot.

Part of me is hoping AM just stomps throats now that their only real competition has been fucked by staff. I mean, the play nice so we can all have stuff mentality is ridiculous.

I can admit mistakes were made by AW but a lot of these suspensions were from conceeded mobs with concessions given to make amends and ban hammer still falls.

Has CSG ever even competed for a vulak while AW/AM were unsuspended? if so I know they never actually pulled one with competition. Maybe Braknar can just make one of your trash pullers invulnerable until you can get it pulled to zone so you can put up some semblance of competition.

Or wait, you can just fuck around until AM gets one of you killed so you can get them suspended and have 0 competition.....

Have fun not working hard farming nothing you can be proud of ....that makes sense I think....

I have no illusion that AM would be sharing any more content than they do now. Most likely it will be TMO2.0.

We teamed up for 1 Vulak with Rustle while AW/AM was unsuspended and 1h fte was a thing (Rustle got the FTE). Then magically a train appeared at the entrance, logs showed it hitting Aw member first, but nobody had fraps with /assist. Grats Aw on another shady Vulak!

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has CSG ever even competed for a vulak while AW/AM were unsuspended? if so I know they never actually pulled one with competition. Maybe Braknar can just make one of your trash pullers invulnerable until you can get it pulled to zone so you can put up some semblance of competition.

Or wait, you can just fuck around until AM gets one of you killed so you can get them suspended and have 0 competition.....

Have fun not working hard farming nothing you can be proud of ....that makes sense I think....

Herein lies the problem with P99 raiding, you think pulling a dragon to the zone in is how things should be done if you want to be a "good competitive raider".

Verant would have smacked this down so hard and labeled as an exploit if P99 meta tactics were the same in era. Killing a dragon was meant to be an investment of time and have risk vs reward.

Please GMs, take a stand against this! I'm not speaking to just A/A but to all guilds that use these tactics.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Herein lies the problem with P99 raiding, you think pulling a dragon to the zone in is how things should be done if you want to be a "good competitive raider".

Verant would have smacked this down so hard and labeled as an exploit if P99 meta tactics were the same in era. Killing a dragon was meant to be an investment of time and have risk vs reward.

Please GMs, take a stand against this! I'm not speaking to just A/A but to all guilds that use these tactics.

I'm sure A/A wouldn't have any issue with dragons being perma-rooted or making pulling to entrance illegal. These top guilds only pull to entrance because it's the only way to win the competition under the current rules. If one guild stops insta-engaging and pulling to entrance, the other guild wins. It's done out of necessity, not 'because they think it is how things should be done if you want to be a good competitive raider'.

[Jaxon]

Even if there were no competition we'd pull dragons to the entrance anyway because it's just easier, faster, and less risky than clearing trash.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if there were no competition we'd pull dragons to the entrance anyway because it's just easier, faster, and less risky than clearing trash.

Yeah, absolutely. But it's not done because 'they think it is how things should be done if you want to be a good competitive raider'.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure A/A wouldn't have any issue with dragons being perma-rooted or making pulling to entrance illegal. These top guilds only pull to entrance because it's the only way to win the competition under the current rules. If one guild stops insta-engaging and pulling to entrance, the other guild wins. It's done out of necessity, not 'because they think it is how things should be done if you want to be a good competitive raider'.

I think indeed this will be an issue as some have stated how they only kill dragons in the middle of the night because they can instantly log in and collect loot / DKP. Most brag about not being in game much at all except a few hours a week. It would require much more time commitment, which in turn may cause raid forces to dwindle or focus to narrow on particular mobs.

I hear you though that it is done out of necessity, valid point. As is Legday's that 'haters gonna hate' and people will always pick a bone with the top guild (classic).

I think people pounding their chest how their dominating content etc could not do so for so long if they have to commit the true man hours to clearing to content or not using established 'no kill zones' to prevent zone line pulls.