A/A Suspended 20 days...

[Mockba1980]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I lol’d. Best game for camping autists.

if you play TPP (Third view) for sure, but First view is definitely more harder and camping is not really recommended !

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing I would disagree about is 'A/A doesn't stop other guilds from competing'. With the level of experience and coordination A/A has it really isn't fair to new players or guilds.

This is so much truth. ^

Problem is the groundwork of domination is years old and A/A are just running a system of pixel slaves that's been in effect for way too long. it's like a machine that can't be stopped at this point.

Only way to stop it is to destroy the system, but the only people capable of that won't because we are like ants in their ant farm, they just sprinkle food and water occasionally and smash the bad ants when necessary but that's it.

I suppose only way to make the server different if not better would be is if they revamped and totally altered the present raid rules if they are not willing to change game mechanics to stop the conveyor belted dragons.

Oh well all conjecture. I don't raid now, don't expect raiding to change, and expect it to always be a shit show thanks to the raid leaders that are selfish greedy neckbeards.

[Hyperbole]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so much truth. ^

Problem is the groundwork of domination is years old and A/A are just running a system of pixel slaves that's been in effect for way too long. it's like a machine that can't be stopped at this point.

Only way to stop it is to destroy the system, but the only people capable of that won't because we are like ants in their ant farm, they just sprinkle food and water occasionally and smash the bad ants when necessary but that's it.

I suppose only way to make the server different if not better would be is if they revamped and totally altered the present raid rules if they are not willing to change game mechanics to stop the conveyor belted dragons.

Oh well all conjecture. I don't raid now, don't expect raiding to change, and expect it to always be a shit show thanks to the raid leaders that are selfish greedy neckbeards.

Uh you don't have a max level toon, why are you commenting so much about raiding?

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so much truth. ^

Problem is the groundwork of domination is years old and A/A are just running a system of pixel slaves that's been in effect for way too long. it's like a machine that can't be stopped at this point.

Only way to stop it is to destroy the system, but the only people capable of that won't because we are like ants in their ant farm, they just sprinkle food and water occasionally and smash the bad ants when necessary but that's it.

I suppose only way to make the server different if not better would be is if they revamped and totally altered the present raid rules if they are not willing to change game mechanics to stop the conveyor belted dragons.

Oh well all conjecture. I don't raid now, don't expect raiding to change, and expect it to always be a shit show thanks to the raid leaders that are selfish greedy neckbeards.

A/A are DKP based, not loot councilled. How are people pixel slaves when its voluntary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Pretty sure 99% of the loot distributed doesn't go to the 'evil overlords'.

I get it, its easy to virtue signal and cry foul but cmon guy

[Hyperbole]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How was this forum handle not claimed before late 2017...

Pretty sure it's A/A's fault.

Originally Posted by Phenyo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A/A are DKP based, not loot councilled. How are people pixel slaves when its voluntary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Pretty sure 99% of the loot distributed doesn't go to the 'evil overlords'.

I get it, its easy to virtue signal and cry foul but cmon guy

He doesn't even raid, he's just jumping on a popular trend of opinion as he does in pretty much every thread.

Baffling how this guy is given so much attention on his opinions.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so much truth. ^

Problem is the groundwork of domination is years old and A/A are just running a system of pixel slaves that's been in effect for way too long. it's like a machine that can't be stopped at this point.

Only way to stop it is to destroy the system, but the only people capable of that won't because we are like ants in their ant farm, they just sprinkle food and water occasionally and smash the bad ants when necessary but that's it.

I suppose only way to make the server different if not better would be is if they revamped and totally altered the present raid rules if they are not willing to change game mechanics to stop the conveyor belted dragons.

Oh well all conjecture. I don't raid now, don't expect raiding to change, and expect it to always be a shit show thanks to the raid leaders that are selfish greedy neckbeards.

Less rules would be better IMO. The only rules should be no training and no interfering with other guild's pulls. Instead we have a million rules, where we can/can't camp, tracker FTE, tracker limits, targets that are/aren't considered raid targets. The raid target list isn't congruent with yellow text. Stalling is another one which is very subjective and was never well defined. In a game as clunky as EQ it just doesn't work.

If there were only server quakes (~4 a month) and no repop windows/variance it would mitigate a lot of the issues. As well rooted raid targets. The whole concept of pulling every boss to a zone in trivializes most of Velious content and just makes for more issues. The extra effort of clearing can be offset with more 'classic' drop amounts (~4 off most TOV targets and Tunare from what I understand).

Guilds would have to pick and choose their targets. But that may be all too far from 'classic' for the devs to do. Unfortunately even on live these sorts of issues were never really sorted out. It's why instances became a thing and the open world model diminished

[Sadiki]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Less rules would be better IMO.

other stuff

Gotta keep in mind why all these rules exist. P99 always has players who will trample on others and break rules at every possible turn. GMs tried to play nice back in Kunark and it didn't work.

You'd have to take out the rules and then forcefully get rid of all the troublemakers, which isn't really what they want to do.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Sadiki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd have to take out the rules and then forcefully get rid of all the troublemakers, which isn't really what they want to do.

ooh, I get to arrive at my point early!

the answer i was leading toward is - the absolute mountain of shit top end raiders would dump on the server would be ruinous to staff health and wellbeing. staff are badly outnumbered and outgunned. it's a threat and a credible one.

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[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Over under on CSG doing a classic crawl with 200 people through NTOV?

46.5% chance - Ill take the under

Ill give the ToV trash 6.5 points too

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[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Over under on CSG doing a classic crawl with 200 people through NTOV?

46.5% chance - Ill take the under

Ill give the CSG 6.5 points too

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