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Old 12-26-2016, 03:24 PM
Fasttimes Fasttimes is offline
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Please post your evidence that "PnP was rarely actually enforced" - I posted mine to the effect that it was enforced.

You're memory is irrelevant - you are one person on one or a few servers with the hindsight of just your own experiences of 16 years ago.
You sir need a safe space
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:26 PM
Maner Maner is offline
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Please post your evidence that "PnP was rarely actually enforced" - I posted mine to the effect that it was enforced.

You're memory is irrelevant - you are one person on one or a few servers with the hindsight of just your own experiences of 16 years ago.
the evidence you posted was one person from one server....
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:05 PM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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There was no classic enforced sharing that extended all the way down to this low tier of targets. Several servers did have some raid rotations but there certainly was no enforcement on something like Scout.

I'm all about classic mechanics. I don't care about the classic experience. That's subjective and interpreted different ways by everyone. And about 98/100 times the developers and managers of this server agree with me. Thats why I'm here. Basically the extent of my existence on this server anymore is to bug report things which do not reflect classic mechanics.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:12 PM
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There was no classic enforced sharing that extended all the way down to this low tier of targets. Several servers did have some raid rotations but there certainly was no enforcement on something like Scout.

I'm all about classic mechanics. I don't care about the classic experience. That's subjective and interpreted different ways by everyone. And about 98/100 times the developers and managers of this server agree with me. Thats why I'm here. Basically the extent of my existence on this server anymore is to bug report things which do not reflect classic mechanics.
You're incorrect; there was enforcement all the way down to experience only mobs - discussion and evidence has already been posted. Take a look down at the thread " in regards to monopolizing spawns". Its irrefutable.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:40 PM
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TLDR plat farmers (you know what they really are) dominate every important camp on blue server, person raises legit point about it, trolls troll him, people vested in keeping status quo (plat *cough* farmers) known to blue for doing it come and defend the practice saying "it's classic".

even more TLDR ur forced to buy everything thru plat on this server, you cant camp anything. he is mad he has to do this instead of playing game as intented.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:41 PM
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TLDR plat farmers (you know what they really are) dominate every important camp on blue server, person raises legit point about it, trolls troll him, people vested in keeping status quo (plat *cough* farmers) known to blue for doing it come and defend the practice saying "it's classic".

even more TLDR ur forced to buy everything thru plat on this server, you cant camp anything. he is mad he has to do this instead of playing game as intented.
Farming isn't hard if you want specific camps it maybe camped but that's classic.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:46 PM
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Farming isn't hard if you want specific camps it maybe camped but that's classic.
it's not classic when the same group of 3 people have been sitting on that camp for 3 years monopolizing it down to a science where u have a VERY limited window to actually get on the camp.

^sums up every uncommon and rare camp on p99. and if u say im full of shit i don't know what to tell you. go camp yourself a levi cloak, or jboots. and those are just low level things. It was NEVER intended/classic to farm jboots for 3 years straight.
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Old 12-28-2016, 03:34 PM
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it's not classic when the same group of 3 people have been sitting on that camp for 3 years monopolizing it down to a science where u have a VERY limited window to actually get on the camp.

^sums up every uncommon and rare camp on p99. and if u say im full of shit i don't know what to tell you. go camp yourself a levi cloak, or jboots. and those are just low level things. It was NEVER intended/classic to farm jboots for 3 years straight.
Give some examples of where the same people have locked down any particular camp for 3 years straight?

The concept that 'every uncommon and rare camp are permacamped and you can never get them' is an absolute joke of a statement that is not true at all. It takes persistence and effort to get some of these valuable camps and when many people want them, they will be taken by SOMEONE a majority of the time. That doesn't mean they are permacamped and impossible to get access to. You just have to put in effort.

Your posts just sound like someone whining because valuable camps are hotly contested on a regular basis. It's not some elite pool of plat farmers locking down everything in a big coordinated effort for them to RMT. It's just individuals going to profitable camps to make some plat to buy some pixels for their characters. It's always been this way even in classic EQ, although back then camps involving MQs were not as common.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:50 PM
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tunnelquesting is a thing. and its actually a faster route to get pixels. set up by these underground plat farming groups. They want to make it easy for u to buy everything with plat because what is plat tied to? they intentionally farm items that they don't need just so there is no access to them on the market except through their groups.

tunnelquesting was a thing on live, but not to this extent, not to this level of organization going on to cockblock and FORCE you to tunnelquest in order for these people to turn a $$plat$$. my point is. it is classic that it be easyer for a newb to camp his jboots, than to farm 5k and pay for them. But its the reverse on the emu. its faster to farm raw plat then try to camp them.

thats not classic, nor working as intended
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:03 PM
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So many cry babies about MQ's, Epic Farming , etc. How about you get some stones and get some friends willing to compete for content then just have it given to you. Kids these days expect a trophy and a medal for everything and just cry wolf when they don't get their way and spread rumors of training, hacking, etc. Meanwhile ppl are frame-clipping to get FTE's in ToV b/c that is what the raid scene has come to. You can either A. keep crying about it, B. do your own research and be competitive.
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