Einstein or Newton

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Chaboo_Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't believe that , then perhaps you should look at the example called the double slit experiment.Also, many of the experiments that use the role of human consciousness and how it affects our physical material world have been done so under the Department of Defense and military agencies, thus remaining classified -hidden science kept from the eyes of the mainstream public world

You talking ta me? Hmm I had a link around here somewhere...
ah here ya go:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=104
See you are just recycling stuff I've already posted on here now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I've also written up about the digital universe and holographic projection etc here, but this is still a game forum, and not even a sci-fi one, so I haven't gotten deep into the talk here with dreadnought posts. Yours is readable though, decent post. Yeah you're preaching to the quire on that one, but still timely and informative.

But just to note, I'm not into the nonexistent type of universe that exists out of our thoughts or awareness. I know much about it, yes, and many more theories. I don't have a certain absolute model I believe in, just clues as with everyone else looking. I believe it all exists, but just our perception of it is manipulated in a way that it makes sense to us so we and all living creatures can function. Such as when you play on p99, you are looking at a representation on the monitor of something real. But if you were to look at the hard drive platters or inside the RAM, you couldn't make sense of it, I mean no human could.

But you are right, it is spiritual in a way. I mean the complexity is almost so limitless it would seem not to be a product of just chaos. The more we learn, the more we realize that it's just impossible.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you ever looked into Bohm and Pribram's Holographic theory? Have any idea of its relation to simulation theory? Just curious. I find their holonomic view of the brain fascinating although a bunch of mystical bullshit has sprung up around these ideas(like people falling for Sai Baba's BS). I have seen different religious takes on the holographic theory and not just from your typical Buddhist/Hindu/Gnostic views but have read some really interesting breakdowns on this idea of the word and image in Christianity that are too in depth for here.

Yeah that's more my take on things, my leading theory. This all originating out of blackhole physics/theory, into quantum theory, and beyond. We very well may be in a type of digital simulator, a computer. Not like ours, a lot more complex, different tech. The whole universe may be just data of sorts on a flat plane or sphere. To our perception it would be without form, it would be void. But introduce light to this plane, to project it like a hologram into an open space, you get an understandable representation. Like what you are looking at around you, it may not really be there, but somewhere else, as is yourself.

And outside of that plane or sphere or *circle, is what is originally real, before our universe came about. That there is far more than just what we see of our universe, while our universe may just be like a facsimile of those things out there, beyond, a simulation model of.

And I think there are even clues through our history. I've brought up the *circle dot, third eye, the other day in this forum (AJ thread I think). You know, with Saturn worshipers and all that, permeating through history to today. That circle with a dot in the center may very well represent the realm we live in quite literally. The circle (or sphere) being the plane while the dot being the hologram projection space. All very rudimentary way to put it, I'm sure it would be more complex than we could describe. But may be in the ballpark.

[Ahldagor]

Daywolf, how does one preach to four pieces of parchment or paper folded into eight leaves, and kudos to Microsoft for knowing what a quire is. Figure out Sephiroth yet?

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Daywolf, how does one preach to four pieces of parchment or paper folded into eight leaves, and kudos to Microsoft for knowing what a quire is. Figure out Sephiroth yet?

Spelling police officer, in the churches I've attended, there are no choirs, so the spelling of the word is more alien to me. However I see that this would be readily known by someone that enjoys the music of the New York Synagogue Choir. So you got me beat there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, as I mentioned, I never was into FF, so don't know the lore.
"Sephiroth is a fictional character in the role-playing video game Final Fantasy VII developed by Square, where he is the main villain."

[Pokesan]

(((sephiroth)))

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(((sephiroth)))

What I want, Cloud, is to sail the darkness of the cosmos with this Planet as my vessel

[entruil]

'Kabbalah teaches the benefit of focusing on the aspect of each Sephirah related to the particular day of the Omer. A person would examine each of their spiritual qualities, as a rectification process of Teshuva (Return to God), in preparation to reliving the acceptance of the Torah.'

hmmm...

may the flouride be with me...

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spelling police officer, in the churches I've attended, there are no choirs, so the spelling of the word is more alien to me. However I see that this would be readily known by someone that enjoys the music of the New York Synagogue Choir. So you got me beat there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, as I mentioned, I never was into FF, so don't know the lore.
"Sephiroth is a fictional character in the role-playing video game Final Fantasy VII developed by Square, where he is the main villain."

They're two different words. Glad you know that now. Why do you think I'm Jewish? My mother is a witch, so I'm goyim. Church without music sounds terrible. What denomination got to your neurons first?

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're two different words. Glad you know that now. Why do you think I'm Jewish? My mother is a witch, so I'm goyim. Church without music sounds terrible. What denomination got to your neurons first?

Well Kabbalah, same thing, eh? Most jews don't believe their judaism anyway. They have their own traditions that have little to nothing to do with anything of the Abrahamic religions. Well of the two anyway, I don't consider Islam one of them as that really is from the pagan moon god worship. It's just what it is, honest assessment.

Nah, a choir does all the singing, like entertainment. w/o one doesn't mean there is no music, just means everyone participates. Usually a band to lead or whatnot, I've done that a lot in the past with my acoustic guitars, fun stuff.

So you want to know what denom I'm in? Hmm, well quite frankly none. I haven't gone to a denominational church since I was a teen. By late teens had a grasp (from 1st Presbyterian), then went to community type churches from then on. I'm not really "religious" in the sense, more the free gift stuff, while religions do the works for salvation/acceptance stuff most of them. It's just a done deal. I don't even consider myself a "protestant", which is out of the reformation, out of Western Catholicism. More rooted to Eastern Orthodoxy, from anyway. Went to a college for religious studies, learned stuff, did stuff, then went to another college later for computer science, still did more stuff. Always studying something, even stuff I don't agree with.

As far as science and technology, formally electronics and computer science; applied sciences. Informally, astronomy and cosmology. Considerable time into it, books, mags, telescopes etc. since I was young. Also life-long interests in sociology, literature, political science, archeology, ancient history, music theory, video gaming eheeh. My first real science obsession were black holes, and we really didn't know much about them in the 70's.

[Saludeen]

Tesla. He proved Einstein wrong with simple logic. Space can't be curved because its space and you can't curve nothingness.