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[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do realize that "Allah" means "God"? Like "Yahweh"? Dios? Gott? Dieu? In monotheistic religions that is pretty standard and should always be translated to English with God.

What, tl;dr? It doesn't.
And to say God is God is not considered acceptable by muslims, not from the English as I understand it. It must be exclusively Aramaic. imo obviously because it doesn't translate right.

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yahweh and allah are both names, not monikers. god, gott, dios, dieu are all monikers.

yahweh (god of abraham) and allah (god of abraham) are the same entity.

Actually it's:
Yahweh “I AM WHO I AM” or I AM THAT I AM. Personal usage (i.e. I name myself etc.).
Allah "The god" Ĕlāhā, or Alaha. Impersonal usage (i.e. I name you etc.).

The same Thegod carved onto temples to the pagan moon-god, Allah or Ĕlāhā. No, they are not the same, not in name nor context, and where context is prevalent to the issue i.e. deeds. It's like the difference in name and context of Hasbinbad and Hasbin or Has Been. It's more rooted in the interfaith movement to mix and match, like what the pope hat has been doing, moving towards a new one world religion along with his anti-capitalist and political movement. But Islam isn't a compatible religion, it's an ideology, it's mostly political, and one of war and conquest. Any real unity is coming from their (Islam and Catholicism) political and economic aspects, which is based on the ideology aspect.

[Hasbinbad]

they are still names, rofl.

[big_ole_jpn]

apollo isnt my dog's name retard. its his moniker

[Ahldagor]

And there's been an inadvertent display of the weak power of naming. Y'all have come a long way in this thread.

[maskedmelon]

Sal,

What is the word for fake or other gods in Arabic? Like Aphrodite or Baal or Loki.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sal,

What is the word for fake or other gods in Arabic? Like Aphrodite or Baal or Loki.

ilaha - إله

One of the most important declarations in Islam is "la ilaha illallah" - there is no god but God - لا إله إلا الله

[Nihilist_santa]

Question for Saludeen. I was a Baha'i for some time but fell out with that group for several reasons but the primary one being that they claimed all of these prophets from various religions were different manifestations of the same god (usual syncretic BS) but they ignored the many contradictions of those "divine manifestations". I always wondered the same about Islam. It claims to honor Jesus/Isa as a prophet but ignores all of the messages Jesus/Isa spoke (his attributed words contradict many of Islams). How do you reconcile a belief in Jesus/Isa's teachings with the fact they contradict what Muhammad claimed?

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question for Saludeen. I was a Baha'i for some time but fell out with that group for several reasons but the primary one being that they claimed all of these prophets from various religions were different manifestations of the same god (usual syncretic BS) but they ignored the many contradictions of those "divine manifestations". I always wondered the same about Islam. It claims to honor Jesus/Isa as a prophet but ignores all of the messages Jesus/Isa spoke (his attributed words contradict many of Islams). How do you reconcile a belief in Jesus/Isa's teachings with the fact they contradict what Muhammad claimed?

Then they aren't his teachings. Are you referring to the Bible?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ilaha - إله

One of the most important declarations in Islam is "la ilaha illallah" - there is no god but God - لا إله إلا الله

Well that seems to suggest Allah is a name for god ^^ Tuough if other religions use the same word, I guess not! That is not particularly important to me though.

You sknow greeted that Sharia is not a part of Islam, does that mean you reject it? Are you a part of a specific sect of Islam that shares your interpretation? I am curious because your view seems to contrast sharply with majority Muslim opinion throughout the world.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that seems to suggest Allah is a name for god ^^ Tuough if other religions use the same word, I guess not! That is not particularly important to me though.

You sknow greeted that Sharia is not a part of Islam, does that mean you reject it? Are you a part of a specific sect of Islam that shares your interpretation? I am curious because your view seems to contrast sharply with majority Muslim opinion throughout the world.

To God are the best names. So its more about sincerity and intention (17:110). It doesn't make sense to refer to God as Zeus or Jesus or Cthulu because those don't refer to the Creator, the All-Mighty, Lord of the Worlds, the Generous, the Rich, the Praiseworthy, Seer, Hearer, All-Knowing, Most Wise, Master of the Day of Judgement.

I reject Sharia law because its man made from corrupt books called hadiths. God sent the Qur'an, not hadiths, regardless of what sunni or shia sectarians say. The majority of "Muslims" may be Sunni but the only non-sectarian form of Islam is one from the Qur'an alone reinforced by reasoning.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
17:110 Say: "Call on God or call on the Almighty; by whichever you call on, to Him are the best names." And do not be too loud in making your contact prayer, nor too quiet; but seek a path in between.

May God bless you and admit you to Paradise with rivers flowing beneath.