Dallas erupts in gunfire at BLM protest

[Archalen]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be curious to see what evidence you have for this, especially the meat part.

Never seen the rat studies on casein and the population studies (both done by professor emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University Colin Campbell)? I've read the five or so refutations by amateur staticians that float around the Internet and Colin has personally shut them all down. He published all this stuff in peer reviewed journals when he first conducted the study and gives talks around the country. He said the only serious arguments he gets from qualified peers in the field are "this isn't realistic, people aren't going to eat a plant based diet.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Archalen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never seen the rat studies on casein and the population studies (both done by professor emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University Colin Campbell)? I've read the five or so refutations by amateur staticians that float around the Internet and Colin has personally shut them all down. He published all this stuff in peer reviewed journals when he first conducted the study and gives talks around the country. He said the only serious arguments he gets from qualified peers in the field are "this isn't realistic, people aren't going to eat a plant based diet.

Casein is a milk protein, though. I can believe that drinking large quantities of milk as an adult could cause problems (especially without fermentation) as it isn't really a natural thing to do. That's why I said I was more interested in the meat part.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every time I hear someone say "there is a cure for cancer but the overlords don't want you to have it cause money" I take a look at harvoni, zepatier, etc, and notice how the FDA fast-tracked the shit out of them and think to myself "is that really the case?"

spoiler: it's probably not. that shit will absolutely be released and you'll pay through the nose for it at first.

That's not what I was implying at all....I said it would be released by the appropriate oligarch family AFTER they obtained it and debated on how to structure its release for maximum profit. You cannot separate the profit motive from these oligarchs.

The joke about them invoking national security and sending State Dept to collect the cure and turn it over to the oligarch went over your head.

[sOurDieSel]

Is anyone really surprised that a terrorist group comprised of low iq 3rd world savages is committing violent acts against police and then crying racism... We don't need to worry about ISIS in the Middle East when we have BLM right here in Amurika.

[Raev]

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...ust-came-home/

The suspected shooter was simply blown up sans trial. There was no reason they could not have simply waited him out.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/a...tings-40441360

Another black army vet 'wants to kill white people'.

God what happened to the United States.

P.S. Everyone talks about how the police are racist; why is no one talking about how the police are sexist? Police kill 20x more men than women.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...ust-came-home/

The suspected shooter was simply blown up sans trial. There was no reason they could not have simply waited him out.

So this dude is armed to the teeth, fairly competent with a weapon, has already killed 5 in plain sight of thousands, has verbally professed his desire to kill more, could run out at any time and possibly (unlikely) kill 1 or 2 more before they take him down, and the standoff is shutting down a part of Dallas and probably costing at least several hundred thousand taxpayer dollars an hour.

Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this dude is armed to the teeth, fairly competent with a weapon, has already killed 5 in plain sight of thousands, has verbally professed his desire to kill more, could run out at any time and possibly (unlikely) kill 1 or 2 more before they take him down, and the standoff is shutting down a part of Dallas and probably costing at least several hundred thousand taxpayer dollars an hour.

Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

You are right. They use snipers when they have the shot so I dont see how this is a due process issue. I mean it could be made out to be one but seems like a stretch. Had been reading some Murray (((Rothbard))) recently and he had advocated Judge Dredd style policing. I found it interesting.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ending a deadly, murderous rampage takes moral precedence over due process of the criminal. If you want to live to go through a multi-million dollar years-long trial, you have to surrender.

It's a good point. That being said, it seems like a bit of a false choice. Why couldn't they have put some sleeping gas or something on the robot?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why couldn't they have put some sleeping gas or something on the robot?

If sleeping gas actually exists in a way where it can be effectively delivered like that, that's a great idea and that's what they should have done instead.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only thing like "sleeping gas" that exists outside of cartoons is an opioid overdose administered by gas. Difficult to impossible to titrate dose properly, and the chain of custody / risk of diversion would make having that type of shit on hand all over the US an expensive proposition.

Just blow the dude's face off.

And we don't even have save-shots available on police/paramedics for basic recreational opioid emergencies, which occur daily. Maybe when save-shots being carried become Federal law, we can start to talk about sleeping gas for active shooters (not).

Additionally, there is absolutely no way to quantify when the gas works. The threat, even with a robot visual, is still a threat regardless of whether hes slumped in the prone position or not.

Never. Going. To. Happen. Russia tried it, it murdered hundreds by accident. And half the shooters were still wielding firearms and shooting because the titration and distribution is impossible to guarantee.

What we need is legitimate androids (which we have the technology for) to roll in, request the firearms be turned over, collect the firearms via supermagnetic device (warn the perpetrator that it will lose his hands/fingers or face serious injury or death when the supermagnet turns on unless he removes all metal devices within the demanded time-frame). The robot can suggest stripping naked taking pants off, shirt off, ensuring no metal devices are on the person when the magnetic collector activates.

This is probably the most safe and cost effective solution. Put 1 disarm android in each major city.

The negotiator can still do his job, but when it comes time for the ultimatum is when you send the disarm robot in.