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Old 07-07-2016, 12:03 PM
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You risk losing time recovering, you risk losing the camp you are fighting over, you risk losing reputation, a potential friend, buffs you are wearing, any items your pet is carrying, any consumables used in your failed attempt.

You might consider pvp to have insufficient risk of loss, but it is not correct to say there is pvp with no risk of loss here.
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Old 07-07-2016, 12:12 PM
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There needs to be risk AND reward, not just one. And they need to be relatively balanced because "griefing satisfaction" isn't rewarding enough to be worth the risk of losing exp, and thus encourages people to avoid PVP. But if you could loot coins + an item then it would be worth it.

And changing the mechanics won't save the server, assuming that means increasing the population. Since a server is dead if nobody plays. Improving the mechanics may help, but the only thing that will bring more people is advertising. The people who aren't playing on the server either don't know about it, or they have assumptions about PVP and Everquest or simply don't like it. You can't force people who don't like it to play, but you can definitely bring new people in. I simply don't care enough to advertise for this server though. But you could do it anywhere like on twitch, forums, a bumper sticker, whatever.
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Old 07-07-2016, 01:55 PM
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You risk losing time recovering, you risk losing the camp you are fighting over, you risk losing reputation, a potential friend, buffs you are wearing, any items your pet is carrying, any consumables used in your failed attempt.

You might consider pvp to have insufficient risk of loss, but it is not correct to say there is pvp with no risk of loss here.
The risk of losing time is a joke, everyone loses time the second they decide to log in this game. You need to move backwards for losing, not just staying even longer.
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Old 07-07-2016, 02:27 PM
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interesting thread
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Old 07-07-2016, 04:23 PM
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Roll in Luclin, server will boom overnight. Will be fun for a while.
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Old 07-07-2016, 04:27 PM
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Roll in Luclin, server will boom overnight. Will be fun for a while.
We tried that. Launched a massive Luclin campaign and push.

The vocal minority came out of the woodwork despite polls favoring Luclin. I suggested to char-copy an additional sever so people don't who don't want to play Luclin don't have to.

Ultimately nillbog isn't motivated to work on Luclin as he didn't enjoy it. Haynar does work on it for other servers, but its probably not going to happen under the p99 brand.
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Old 07-07-2016, 10:46 PM
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if you could loot coins + an item then it would be worth it.
This sounds intimidating and exhilarating.

How often do people create EQ emu servers? Do we think someone will make an item loot PVP server sometime soon? It would be cool to see how it goes.

Honestly, I would bet the interested audience would be a smaller pool than that of Red99, but I could be wrong. Maybe if the PvP scene on such a server was hot enough, it would exceed Red's population.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:17 AM
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This sounds intimidating and exhilarating.

How often do people create EQ emu servers? Do we think someone will make an item loot PVP server sometime soon? It would be cool to see how it goes.

Honestly, I would bet the interested audience would be a smaller pool than that of Red99, but I could be wrong. Maybe if the PvP scene on such a server was hot enough, it would exceed Red's population.
Red99 is the only server that can pull the numbers and have credibility so everyone is at their mercy as far as the rules. They will never make an item loot server. Red99 is the same as the zerg guild that everyone hates but no one can challenge and defeat.
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Old 07-11-2016, 01:12 AM
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This forces folks to have to grind forever
Discuss
Sorry, you lost most of the population right there
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Old 07-11-2016, 02:42 AM
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annual wipes is the way 2 do it, anyone caring about their imaginary elfsim items need professional help and a wipe would be something to trigger em to go get said help

do these grown bearded social rejects a favor, #wipeitclean2016
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