Are you kidding me?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I am not playing on a PVP server. I am not playing to beat Chest, or Detoxx, or Daldaen every week. I am playing to beat the Envrionment. My guild is not built to beat competition, but to have fun killing mobs. We would enjoy more clearing down and setting up for one of these dragons, than we would killing it and getting the loot.

A lot of guilds are of like mind. I propose the "competitive guilds" let everyone else play the content on rotation as they see fit, and then the "competitive" can race to the corpse from zoneline for first pick of loot, Crown of Riles allowed. Then the rotation guilds can play the game they want, and the "hardcore" can continue to sit on their asses for 16 hours a day to "earn" their best in slot whatever.

[Swish]

wipe it clean 2016

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[mrmop520]

It just seems silly to limit players to simply scale of wolf or w/e so that they cannot use clickies to gain an advantange. Maybe it's just me but a large part of what makes Everquest unique is the ingenious ways you can use items like clickies to improve your ability to kill, race etc. So what crown of rile gives you the ability to jump more- thats kind of the point of an instant clicky endurance item.. should we ban bladestoppers because they let classes rune and gain aggro that couldn't before? The fact that shadowstep masks (that are no rent 1-charge and take a lot of time to prepare) were banned from VP racing was ridiculous - it was at best a second gained from using them and at worst spun you around and disorientated you during the run!

[Swish]

A second is a long time in online elf simulator

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't change the fact though, that raiding in Velious right now is not desirable by any means. CSG didn't push for racing, we pushed for no zone pulls. We wanted the 1 hour time period so that guilds could clear down and kill the mob on its spot, not for any other reason.

In its current state, Velious raiding is unplayable by anyone but the 5%, and if thats how its meant to be, its working as intended. If not, someone has to look at solutions that are not about what spells you are allowed to use or how many hail marys you have to say before FTEing. We keep being told we didn't want to talk about soltuions, but the problem is, the "problems" Detoxx and Daldaen wants solutions for, are not our problems.

Dissecting this great wall of text, my best counter argument.

The very moment you went to Sirkens steam and made demands on how you wanted NTOV to operate (and got those changes), you become part of the dialogue of raid rules lawyer-questing. These "problems" are your problems so long as you wish to play in our end of the raid scene. CSG's prolonged time in class R has made you far to naive and blissfully unaware of the true face of the cutthroat competition in the raid scene, this is simply what you must face if you choose to go against A/A.

[Thiefboy777]

Originally Posted by Kileras [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

am i getting ripped on because i think it is lame to need a PD helm to spam jump to beat people to targets? Or are you ripping on that that is even a thing in the raid scene?

I think you're getting "ripped on" for being a whiny little bitch. Want a crown? Go kill Phara Dar, it's an in game item working as intended.

Same goes for Nemce, Cuckski and the rest of you ungrateful cunts. Why the fuck A/A ever helped you out in any form is beyond me.

[Tycoon]

Rotations are fucking stupid.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by mrmop520 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It just seems silly to limit players to simply scale of wolf or w/e so that they cannot use clickies to gain an advantange. Maybe it's just me but a large part of what makes Everquest unique is the ingenious ways you can use items like clickies to improve your ability to kill, race etc. So what crown of rile gives you the ability to jump more- thats kind of the point of an instant clicky endurance item.. should we ban bladestoppers because they let classes rune and gain aggro that couldn't before? The fact that shadowstep masks (that are no rent 1-charge and take a lot of time to prepare) were banned from VP racing was ridiculous - it was at best a second gained from using them and at worst spun you around and disorientated you during the run!

Life is full of people who want something for nothing Wispy. This is a clash of ideology and its really pointless putting forward counter-arguments.

[Tycoon]

FTE is retarded too

[Freakish]

It sounds like Phara Dar is a natural barrier to entry to Velious mobs?

Now that's classic.