VA live reporter shooting - Page 15

Secrets · #1 08-27-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much. The instructors around here teach you that you should only draw your weapon if you intend to use it. You can not use it to deescalate a situation. In some states you can draw your gun to stop a crime, and hold them until police arrive. Perp gets arrested, cops thank you, everyone goes home happy. Around here, cops show up and arrest you for brandishing and assault with a deadly weapon.

My deadly weapon is my penis. Oddly enough, I can still get arrested for brandishing it in public.

MrSparkle001 · #2 08-27-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much. The instructors around here teach you that you should only draw your weapon if you intend to use it. You can not use it to deescalate a situation. In some states you can draw your gun to stop a crime, and hold them until police arrive. Perp gets arrested, cops thank you, everyone goes home happy. Around here, cops show up and arrest you for brandishing and assault with a deadly weapon.

In the case I was on the guy was approached in his car by someone holding a blunt instrument, after an altercation at an intersection that quickly escalated. He was afraid and pointed an unregistered gun at him which made him back off. He was an older guy, mild-mannered and uneducated. Nothing about him said "violent criminal".

Yeah he had an unregistered gun but none of us thought the guy should get a felony conviction and prison time for pointing it at a guy coming at him with a blunt weapon in his hand.

Now if he shot the guy we have a whole different situation.

Patriam1066 · #3 08-27-2015, 02:30 PM

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I was on a jury where a poor guy with average at best representation was on trial for merely defending himself by using a threat of deadly force. Just a threat, no shots ever fired.

We let him go on all but one very obvious and fairly minor charge.

Why? Well even though NJ has strict laws about using a threat of deadly force in self defense, we the jury said "fuck that we aren't putting this guy in jail for defending himself. He never even fired a shot." It was unanimous.

Prosecutor was pissed as hell, defense was ecstatic and the poor guy would not stop thanking us.

Felt good.

Sometimes you can't take the law literally as it's written, like the prosecutor wanted us to.

http://youtu.be/Oi3Hyxuf5AE

**Rogean** · #4 08-26-2015, 09:32 PM

Yet in some states there have been people shot and killed on someone's porch because they broke down and needed help, and shooter wasn't charged.

Sadre Spinegnawer · #5 08-26-2015, 09:45 PM

I do not usually post on this forum but saw the thread from the main window, and I just want to say, theories and commentary aside, I am tired of hearing of killings like this. I refuse to get desensitized. Two lives taken. Countless other lives now deeply and forever wounded by such madness. I refuse to get desensitized to it.

That's all. Some very, very, very real pain is happening tonight and tomorrow and for the rest of their lives for some people tonight, and I refused to get desensitized. Humanity as a whole has to solve this problem someday, somehow. But for now: this is just terrible, and that is all I have to say.

**Rogean** · #6 08-26-2015, 10:46 PM

Hi Orruar

bubur · #7 08-27-2015, 12:33 AM

looks like an amateur college kid project

Pokesan · #8 08-27-2015, 02:11 AM

you probably shouldn't be willing to murder someone over a television

that's just IMO though

KagatobLuvsAnimu · #9 08-27-2015, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you probably shouldn't be willing to murder someone over a television

that's just IMO though

If they are invading my home? Without hesitation or an ounce of remorse.
that's just IMO though.

dafier · #10 08-27-2015, 09:51 AM

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If they are invading my home? Without hesitation or an ounce of remorse.
that's just IMO though.

A man's home is his castle. In his castle he has beloved items, whether they be materialistic or living beings.

If a person makes the choice to break laws by invading, then they've made a choice which is not rational nor legal.

Motive.....it's all about motive.