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Old 06-24-2015, 07:31 PM
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Brell Serilis was an awesome server and an awesome community.
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Old 06-25-2015, 03:03 AM
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People aren't being 'shut up from getting usable gear', they have the same random chance of getting said usable gear as anyone else in the group. They also have the chance to get non-useable gear to sell to buy themselves some gear.

It works both ways... Sure, a newbie monk might miss out on a tstaff but a newbie cleric might win a tstaff over a monk with fungi/cof/epic/sos who would otherwise claim NBG.

Random is a fairer system and also a much harder system to abuse. NBG makes no sense.
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:29 AM
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People aren't being 'shut up from getting usable gear', they have the same random chance of getting said usable gear as anyone else in the group. They also have the chance to get non-useable gear to sell to buy themselves some gear.

It works both ways... Sure, a newbie monk might miss out on a tstaff but a newbie cleric might win a tstaff over a monk with fungi/cof/epic/sos who would otherwise claim NBG.

Random is a fairer system and also a much harder system to abuse. NBG makes no sense.
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Old 06-25-2015, 10:00 AM
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Eh. If I'm in a "random loot" group and I win an item I have no use for and someone in group really wants it, they can have it. A few plat ain't worth it. But if someone is twinked out, perhaps I don't have the same form of empathy, even if the item is an upgrade. Who knows.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:23 PM
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Ofc, nbg will never make sense to most ppl on this server and furthermore it cant be explained to them.
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:12 PM
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Ofc, nbg will never make sense to most ppl on this server and furthermore it cant be explained to them.
You sir, are a poor mindreader, nor are you well skilled at snark.

NBG makes sense allright. Sadly, NBG it fails because it is so easily abused that the greedheads cannot resist and this server is well salted with greedheads. This unfortunate reality inevitably leads thoughtful players to fall back on /random unless there is good reason to do otherwise. So, for instance, ordinary gem and common loot drops (i.e. stuff worth 100-200pp) in Old Seb are typically alpha-rotated rather than /randomed. Depending on the guild, guild groups are often NBG or even put together for the specific purpose of getting particular gear for particular characters. There are plenty of examples when NBG happens, but none of them include rare and highly valuable items that drop for random_pug_1337.
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Old 06-26-2015, 03:59 AM
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You sir, are a poor mindreader, nor are you well skilled at snark.

NBG makes sense allright. Sadly, NBG it fails because it is so easily abused that the greedheads cannot resist and this server is well salted with greedheads. This unfortunate reality inevitably leads thoughtful players to fall back on /random unless there is good reason to do otherwise. So, for instance, ordinary gem and common loot drops (i.e. stuff worth 100-200pp) in Old Seb are typically alpha-rotated rather than /randomed. Depending on the guild, guild groups are often NBG or even put together for the specific purpose of getting particular gear for particular characters. There are plenty of examples when NBG happens, but none of them include rare and highly valuable items that drop for random_pug_1337.
I already said all of the above, more or less, in an earlier post.

Short version: ppl are dicks; eq lends itself to dickishness so easily = eq attracts and holds dicks = ppl are dicks.

tl;dr dicks
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Old 06-26-2015, 07:12 AM
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:57 PM
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Love how newbies join a 6 year old server and start telling everyone how to be decent players
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:07 PM
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Love how newbies join a 6 year old server and start telling everyone how to be decent players
They haven't been camp lawyered yet, give them time.
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